How To Mix Gigs When Demand Drops, DoorDash Notes Gone Wild

We trade real gig work stories that show how weird and unpredictable the road can get, from loud rideshare passengers to Amazon route mistakes that destroy your timing. We also break down gig economy news on surveillance pricing, driver pay transparency, and why the numbers behind “insurance fees” still raise serious questions. 

• handling awkward rider conversations without getting pulled into drama 
• mixing rideshare, food delivery, Walmart Spark, and Amazon Flex to survive summer slowdown 
• avoiding Amazon Flex time sinks by checking the map and skipping stops strategically 
• testing new delivery platforms and dealing with always-on location and battery drain 
• making BabyQuip work like a small business with inventory costs and scheduling logistics 
• using AI tools to summarise long articles and terms while double-checking accuracy 
• why surveillance pricing feels different from surge pricing and what data might be used 
• reacting to aggressive DoorDash notes and the basics of door-safe drop-offs 
• what Walmart Spark “tailored offers” could mean for drivers in the real world 
• why Uber’s insurance explanation keeps getting challenged by independent research 

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Transcript

Studio Banter And Weekly Setup

SPEAKER_00 0:23

Hello, hello. Welcome to the Gig Economy Podcast. Episode three hundred and nine. Two weeks in a row in the studio. Nice to see lifting with Larry. Again, I'm Blueberry Bitch. I need a name. I I I need that's my nickname, but I feel like I need a name like yours.

SPEAKER_02 0:45

Alright, we need to have a contest and let people pick a name for you.

SPEAKER_00 0:49

No, it'll come out as good. And then that's I I can't use that one. Can't use that. No. Yeah. Probably not. Get canceled. Yeah, you'll get canceled. So uh Larry, how's it going? Um, what happened?

SPEAKER_02 1:04

Oh, I had some feedback there. I'm doing well. I'm doing well.

SPEAKER_00 1:07

Been a long day at work. Yeah. We were talking about that on the pre-show, which you can get at patreon.com/slash the gig econ podcast. That Larry had to reset 75 phones. That's what that's what second job has come to for for Mr. Larry.

SPEAKER_02 1:21

But uh yeah, it's been uh been a pretty good week. Um did a little bit of gear work this weekend. So uh yeah, can't complain.

SPEAKER_00 1:28

Well, tell me about your stories from the

Loud Riders And Awkward Questions

SPEAKER_00 1:30

road. I see you uh you you do have a little story, I see.

SPEAKER_02 1:33

Yeah, one I was did a little food delivery and some ride share um on 4th of July. Picked up these four poor girls and they were going to uh a very, very wealthy neighborhood, like one of the top three, you know, wealthiest neighborhoods around uh Bowling Green uh called Mount Air. And um was when I got there, it was a humongous house, probably a big giant circle drive, probably I don't know, 30 cars, obviously having a big, big party. But man, like halfway through, I was like, these crumbs are so freaking loud. Oh my god, they are so loud. I was like, I don't know if I just hadn't done rideshare in a while and and was not used to it, but they were so loud, and they were talking all about this friend of theirs, this guy friend of theirs, who's dating this girl who cheated on him and how he deserved better, and he should marry the one in the front. And and the one in the front kept trying to drag me into it. She turned to me like, Well, what do you think about the situation? Oh, I hate that. I know it, I know it. I'm like, Well, I think y'all got it covered. That's you know, just something to say that, and then little they're talking about it, and she's like, I think he's gonna marry me. I think he wants it. What do you think? I was like, Yeah, he's probably gonna marry you. Yeah, just shut up and leave me out of the conversation, wanting no part of it.

SPEAKER_00 2:45

Yeah, it it's tough to know like what's which side of the argument. You you know what I mean? Like, you kind of gotta feel the vibe because if it's like her and then she's against the two girls and you go with her, then you're gonna get hate from the other girls. Exactly. So it is it is a weird predicament to be in. Um, yeah, or the when it's husband and wife, and she's just oh boyfriend and girlfriend, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 3:07

Oh man, yeah, I had that happen one time too. This girl, and you can tell they were dating, but man, she got there and she was flirting, man, hard and playing these the raunchiest songs on her phone.

SPEAKER_00 3:17

Oh, I remember that story.

SPEAKER_02 3:19

Oh my gosh. She kept trying to. I'm just like, nah, I'm nope, don't want no part of this.

SPEAKER_00 3:24

Yeah, that's that's super weird. Well, I I uh I heard at the beginning when you said you did some food delivery and rides here. So are we are we starting to mix it up a little bit?

SPEAKER_02 3:33

I'm mixing it up, man. I'm mixing it up now.

SPEAKER_00 3:36

Now, can I ask why you're mixing it up? I mean, I know I forced you to do it those two times, but like why do you is it just because it's slow, yeah. It's slow slow during the summer, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 3:46

Yeah, but I mean, you know, um you you do it for a while and you're like, ah, yeah, you know, it's not so bad. I don't I don't mind it, you know. And and uh especially when it's slow, it's it's good to have them all on, but yeah,

Mixing Apps To Beat Summer Slowdown

SPEAKER_02 4:00

yeah, try to be a little more diverse in in the future here.

SPEAKER_00 4:03

Yeah, and speaking of divert uh diversity, um my stories, oh man, uh the one Amazon route, I've been doing Amazon more like I've been trying to this is you know, because I feel like gig work has slowed down quite a bit. I've noticed with Walmart, I mean I have a couple in the morning and then it's just not much. And food delivery is and I I get it, it's you know, it's summertime, people are on vacation and stuff, but so I've been trying to get a uh you know, do a couple Walmarts, and then I've been recently getting an Amazon route at like 10. So then I do that and then I'm done for the day or whatever. But a couple of them have been long hauls, you know, the old K Kalmazoo, you know, that's like my favorite place to live, um, or to visit. And uh I had a route, doesn't matter what day it is, but uh it was kind of around a lake area, and they had construction going on, but they only had one-way directions on some of the construction. And when you're down there, you're kind of you know, you kind of gotta just trust the GPS, the Amazon one, and and maybe it's on me because I didn't look ahead, but like I had to like take this huge detour all the way around to deliver a package. Then I realized, oh fuck, I have to do another one in that same one way, but I'm already past it. You know what I mean? Because I didn't look ahead, so now I gotta go all the way around again. So like two stops took me like almost a half hour. Oh, dang. And and you're you're going through by the lake and it's 25 miles an hour, and they got there was no cops, but they had the cop, you know, uh radar thing. Like clearly, people are like buzzing through there, and I'm just like, get me the fuck out of here. Oh that's frustrating. Just a word of advice, and don't do what I do. Make sure you look at the map. You can always skip ahead to different stops, and if I would have looked at it, I would have seen that one, done that one first, then skip to the next one, and then I would have only had to go through that one way once. Um, so yeah, that was that was a little annoying. A kind of a rookie move, but I don't know. I think I was just bitching about it and not thinking and not looking ahead, and then realized I I just double fucked myself.

SPEAKER_02 6:24

Well, I mean, I haven't obviously I haven't done Amazon Flex, but uh uh I mean I can understand getting in the groove and not not really, you know, you kind of you kind of rely on it after a little while to, you know, oh it's gonna send me on a good route, you know, good good way. And so not checking everything like that. You know, that's kind of a rare occurrence for the road to be shut down one way like that.

SPEAKER_00 6:45

Yeah, and I don't really blame Amazon per se, but they do struggle with picking up construction. So like when I figured out it was one way, I dumped Amazon's and I typed the address in on my Google Maps, and it was it was accurate. They had clearly been working on that for a while. But I know Faith, she really looks at the map and sometimes she reorders stuff. I typically don't. I feel like it's I don't feel like I'm smart enough than the the computer to to to be better. I'm not saying Faith is smart enough or isn't it's not about that, it's just a reflection on me. Like I'm gonna fuck it up somehow. That's basically what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_02 7:22

So it lets you go in and actually you can reorder them whatever order you want.

SPEAKER_00 7:26

You can't reorder them, but you can like if two and and six are next to each other, you can do two, jump to six, yeah, and then go back to three, four, five or whatever. But no, they don't let you reorder, which God, I that would be amazing if they could, but a lot of these are businesses now, and they and and a lot of them get deliveries, even though I swear half of them are like personal shit,

Amazon Flex Detours And Map Mistakes

SPEAKER_00 7:50

they're getting delivered to the business. Um, they put priorities on them. So like yesterday I did a route, I had two, three right by 40 and 41, which I didn't do 40 and 41, but the two and the three were businesses, so they want you to go there. So even though it's not as efficient, they want to get those, which is granted, they've run into so much trouble where it says on the thing business closes at five, and I got the package at eight o'clock, yeah. And you know my motto, everything gets delivered, and so I'm delivering at eight o'clock. I try to hide it and go on from there, but so I think they're really trying to like accommodate these businesses and prioritize it a little bit. So um, so that's good. I I signed up for Meals Now. I know you've probably heard that in the chat, the the telegram chat, which you can join. The link is in the description. Um, and then I signed up for Vay V Ho, VHO, I think, V-E-H-O, which is kind of like Flex. Uh I know Gabe talked about a lot in the chat. He's done a few routes with them. It doesn't sound as good as Flex, but it's always good to have you know something in or two about. And I don't have a drum roll button. I only have this one. A baby quip update. I got my first reservation. Uh-oh. Of course. Of course, I'm on vacation. But did I take it? Yes. Am I gonna have people deliver it and pick it up for me? Yes. Have I been working on it, scheduling that for the last day? Yes, I have. Um, I just said to myself, you know what? Fuck it. I have to get some orders under my belt, even though I'm not doing it. So my daughter's gonna bring it down there. And there's lit you don't set it up, especially for like cribs and car seats because of the liability. We have to give them the manual, even if it's a digital link. It just shows that we gave them the manual for that. And then so Avery's just gonna drop it off, and then my one of my friends, bus friends, is gonna go pick it up because on the five, it's like the 17th through the 25th. Well, the 17th were gone and the 25th were gone as a family. The 17th is just three of us, the 25th, it's four of us. So I have to have my friend go pick it up. So I'm literally not driving any of it, I'm just buying the shit, which ended up being five hundred and fifty dollars.

SPEAKER_02 10:14

Okay, well, what was it?

SPEAKER_00 10:15

It was a crib and a and an and a stroller. They were both, and I had to buy a mattress, like a crib mattress. So my stuff was in there at $200, so or I think the stroller was a little bit more, but that's the most expensive stuff on there, so I get the purchase out of the way. Um, okay, it's a little far of a drive, it's it's 32 miles, it's literally the end of my little because you draw a bubble over it. Right, what you want, and it's Saga Tuck. I don't know if you remember Saga Tuk when you were up here. Yeah, they're staying in an Airbnb down there, and so of course it's like the furthest I drive, but she paid $350 for it, and I'm getting $250, so it looks like they took a hundred um out. So not horrible. I mean, obviously, I'm not gonna break even with this first one, but now I have it, and right next I just think the next yeah, somebody else needs a crib and a trailer, man.

SPEAKER_02 11:08

You're you're in business.

SPEAKER_00 11:09

I think two two reservations, I got it paid for basically. That's awesome. And then I have it, and you know, Megan's a little worried about them, and she's like, Well, the other gigs you don't have to invest. I was like, we can't look at this as like a gig. This is like a small business.

SPEAKER_02 11:23

Yeah, it's different than gig work, it really is.

SPEAKER_00 11:26

I mean, then she's like, Well, what about your car? I'm like, Yeah, but I have my car because I have to have a car, but I use it for gig work. This other stuff, I don't need it, I don't have babies, I don't have any grandkids. Yeah, so I have to you have to put a little investment in. Now, this shit's gonna last for years and years and years. It's not gonna be, you know, two times unless they break it, which there is a damage clause, but um, so yeah, I I just told her it was, you know, it's more of a business. It's it's not just delivering food. You gotta kinda you got to put some skin in the game.

SPEAKER_02 11:58

Yeah. Well, it's it's cool to see because I remember like the first time we talked about it, and uh, and it's going, you know, it's come all the way to fruition now. It took a while. I mean, it's been take a while.

SPEAKER_00 12:09

A whole year, because I think last year we talked about it. Like, oh, it'd be a good summer gig. And and I do feel this is gonna be mostly a summer gig, maybe around the holidays, but like January, February, and March, I doubt I get a reservation. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 12:24

You don't know, unless somebody's coming in to visit people, you know, family for the holidays or something.

SPEAKER_00 12:28

Well, yeah, I see yeah, the holidays I think so, but like the the the three months before spring, I think it's gonna be tough. Um, she got this offer some sort of referral from V Virbo. I don't I and so she got it, she even got a discount, not didn't take it out of mine.

SPEAKER_02 12:43

Right.

SPEAKER_00 12:44

So I think Verbo is partnered with Yeah, they must be Baby Quip. And then I'm thinking to myself, I really that triggered an idea for me. I need to reach out, I don't know how, maybe through uh like the Grand Rapids Inform that has like 50,000 people. I'm like, hey, Airbnb owners, here's my name, you know. What if I could give them like a small twenty dollar kickback on a yeah two hundred dollar order or something like that for them to put hey, I know somebody that or you know, hey, if you need something.

SPEAKER_02 13:19

Yeah, that's not a bad idea. Uh because yeah, a lot of people utilize you know, Airbnbs and verbos and stuff like that now instead of the hotels.

SPEAKER_00 13:28

So I I haven't really like Megan's like, have you watched any training videos? I'm like, absolutely not. I haven't watched it one, but now that I'm starting to get orders, I'm gonna dive into it. You know me, as I'm not gonna waste I mean, some of that, it's it's a lot, it's it's just a lot of like I wouldn't call it a conference, but like it's and it's not like a typical training, it's just some leaders talking about it. But it's like there's like three hour videos.

SPEAKER_02 13:56

I'm like, holy cow.

SPEAKER_00 13:58

I mean, I'm yeah, I'm out at 12 seconds on a TikTok. Like I that's gonna be a struggle. That's gonna be a struggle. So uh I wish I could say I I'll let you know on the deliveries, but I'm not gonna be a part of it. And I don't even know if that's against the rules. I'm just gonna roll the dice. I assume it's fine. I mean, it shouldn't really matter. I mean, they did background check me though.

SPEAKER_01 14:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 14:21

I might need to look at that. Yeah, I not I'm like thinking about it. Maybe after the show tonight, I'm gonna have to uh

New Apps And Battery Drain

SPEAKER_00 14:30

look at some terms and service.

SPEAKER_02 14:32

Yeah, just uh just send the link to uh copy the link for those through our videos and shoot it in the chat GPT and tell it to summarize it for you.

SPEAKER_00 14:40

And take the terms of service and say, hey, tell me if there's anything out in here that I can't have somebody else deliver it, so I don't have to fucking read it.

SPEAKER_03 14:48

Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 14:48

That's what chat's great for. That kind of shit. It is oh my god, it's amazing. And I got the $20. I I I'm I'm on board. That's another subscription. And it I love it. I love it. I can take a picture of something. Yeah. I'll tell you what, I know this is a little squirrely. I took a picture of my early ballot for the four for the primaries. It fucked something up though. I was like, hey, tell me a little bit about these people. And one of the persons that's running for the Democratic side and the governor is a sheriff, and they said he was share, he was sheriff of my county, and I know he's not. I know where he's at. I was like, hey, you got this wrong. Oh, thanks for letting us know.

SPEAKER_01 15:28

Thanks for letting me know.

SPEAKER_00 15:29

So again, it's not perfect. Take it with a grain of salt.

SPEAKER_02 15:34

Yeah, you really have to. Yeah, yeah. I I just got uh an email the other day. I guess uh it's like offering students um a free year of Google's AI for free. Oh so and I got it because you know I take classes uh at work, and so yeah, I was like, hell, I'll sign up. Yeah, so I signed up. I haven't really tested it out yet, but is that Gemini? Um I think so.

SPEAKER_00 15:56

Google is Gemini. I think it is, yeah. But but um, yeah. Well, anyways, so that's the story. I'll uh keep you updated if yeah, definitely if if anything happens. So all right, gig economy in the news. Larry wants talk about the house in Pennsylvania apparently voted to ban Uber Lyft Fairs based on their personal data. Like I'm curious what personal data they ban them on.

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SPEAKER_02 17:03

Well, it's the uh it's the pricing that they're uh we keep hearing about where they're based their pricing on, like, you know, um they have things where they can tell like how low your phone is, so you might be willing to pay a better price,

(Cont.) New Apps And Battery Drain

SPEAKER_02 17:16

you know, or where you're coming from, or your past history, uh, different things like that. So yeah, um so the uh the bill is gonna prohibit transportation network companies from using information drawn from personal devices or other sources to charge riders different prices. So yeah, unlike surge pricing, which you know is based on demand, this is looking at uh what's called what they termed it surveillance pricing now because it uses personal data to determine what an individual rider might be willing to pay. So it really sucks. You know, I can understand surge pricing, it's really busy, not enough people to fulfill a demand. You can raise a price. But if they're looking at stuff like, yeah, he's got a low phone battery, he's probably willing to pay more because he's not gonna be wild.

SPEAKER_01 18:03

That that sucks, man.

SPEAKER_00 18:05

I I can't really do it. I can't believe they and and then what else do they have access to?

SPEAKER_02 18:09

Do they have access to like how I mean clearly not how much is in your checking account because you'd have you know that kind of stuff, but right, right, but it but I think it can look at at past history or it looks at uh let's see if it shows anything says anything else in here.

SPEAKER_00 18:28

Well probably has your telematics for your phone, like

BabyQuip First Booking And Costs

SPEAKER_00 18:31

if it if it knows your battery's low, or maybe how you know who you're texting, or maybe your what you what apps you have on your phone, maybe.

SPEAKER_02 18:40

Yeah. Yeah, it could be, but it says uh it says in here that um Maryland, Connecticut, California, New York have already already banned it, surveillance pricing, and there's similar bills in 20 other states and and the US Congress is looking at it as well.

SPEAKER_00 18:57

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 18:58

So yeah, it's it's doesn't sound good.

SPEAKER_00 19:02

The problem is is like they're still gonna do it, and then we're gonna like later on we're gonna talk about a story about Walmart getting caught with their fingers in the jar again in the cookie jar, and it's like they still are gonna do it, they're just gonna wait till somebody catches you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_02 19:19

Like yeah, it just feels like die down and then it'll ease back in, and then yeah, it's it's a mess.

SPEAKER_00 19:25

I I would be curious to know exactly what they have access to because I mean do you give them access to that when they say, like, I mean, what are they asking? So iPhone has a thing now, I'm sure you've seen. If you download an app, it says ask can the app or what does it say? Track you ask the app not to track, and I never let them do it. You know what I mean? So maybe people are saying yes, it's fine, and so then the app can do it.

SPEAKER_02 19:53

Maybe, yeah, it's I'm sure it's in their terms of service somewhere what they can do.

SPEAKER_00 19:57

But who reads it? Well, no, that's the thing. That's why I always say no. And I also what pisses me off, I you know, at the beginning about stories from the road, I talked about Meals Now, which is a I didn't explain. Meals Now is catering and VHO is like, you know, I did say Amazon, but um Meals Now it has the little blue on all the time up in the I have a dynamic window on this phone. Uh and so you well, it just up at the top, you know what I'm talking about, the navigation or thing, and it's blue all the time because I have it made me choose always, which some of the apps when you choose that it doesn't show that they're they like they like do it in the background, yeah. You know what I mean? Which I guess is still the same, but the problem is it's draining my battery, yeah. Uh, and I'm like annoyed with it. It's like a ghetto app for meals now. It it's really ghetto, and I feel like they're just not optimized for battery saving.

SPEAKER_02 20:53

But yeah, um so I just looked it up real quick you know, real quick on what what's some of the stuff they can they use in surveillance pricing. And here's what it says. Um, so they can look at some some of your device and and technical data, such as battery level, the type of device you have, whether you have a premium versus a budget phone. Oh what what operating system? Uh I don't know why this is typing speed and accuracy when entering addresses. So maybe if you're drunk, maybe they pay you payment. Oh, wow. It looks can look at your browsing history, your past purchase, uh, how often um a user abandons uh you know, closes the app after looking at a fare, how often they compare fares and highly specific geolocation, being you know, if you're whether in your in an affluent area or in a busy transit hub, and also where you're going, daycare, hospital, airport, and even look at local weather conditions.

SPEAKER_00 21:51

So that's wild. And all that is going into an algorithm at a million miles an hour and is processing it. Yep. That browsing history, I mean, it can see where you're shopping, and like if you're buying if you're looking at Nike or you're looking at champion, you know, as far as like trying to think of a lower brand of athletic wear. Exactly. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_02 22:18

It is, man. It's it's pretty scary. Yeah. But how do you stop it? Yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 22:25

I mean, I mean, obviously, some people are, you know, this bill is going in and a lot of states have done it, but I was just just thinking about someone was like, Oh my god, you you have your informed groups too, I know, and you see the crazies in there, but someone was like, Flock cameras, they're they're they're tracking us, it's not just license plates and blah blah blah. I'm like, do you have a smartphone? Yeah, because that's tracking you way more than that. I mean, I'm not uh for flock cameras by any means, yeah, or against them. I'm kind of neutral, like honestly. If it does help the police, I I kind of like it, I guess. I don't know. I mean, I don't break the law or I try not to. Yeah, but my point is is this person was freaking out about the flock cameras, and I'm like, your phone has got way more shit on you, and that they're that they can see than the than the stupid flock cameras with your license plate. Sure.

SPEAKER_02 23:17

Yeah, we have a Facebook group called Spo, I think it's called Spotted in Bowling Green or something like that. There's a flock camera post at least once a week, if not more. Yeah, somebody posted about the flock cameras and what they're doing. And uh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:31

We had somebody do being vigilante, has been had been cutting them down.

SPEAKER_02 23:35

Yeah, oh really? Oh man, I'm of course that same group today also read somebody posted that uh, you know, supposedly our our our local law fish McLaw law enforcement cameras captured an extraterrestrial vehicle last night, but were forced to erase you know the camera footage and more to come, you know.

SPEAKER_00 23:54

It's it's you when you see people on there like that, and like this person brought has the same vote as I do in the elections.

SPEAKER_02 24:02

Yeah, like man, they're just canceling me out.

SPEAKER_00 24:05

Yeah, no kidding, don't do that, don't say that. That makes me feel bad. Like, oh man, God. It's like you have a husband and wife, uh, that they are in difficulty, which is which is crazy. I don't know. That's gotta be tough to do. It's like someone that might be a Muslim or a Christian. Like, how do you how does that relationship work? But um, they're like, yeah, it cancels it out. I'm like, well, why fucking vote then? I'm like, no, you still need to vote. Don't worry, still need to vote. Still need to vote. All right. Uh moving on, this uh, as you were talking at the beginning of the story, Larry, I had to read down, I had to download this because I realized it didn't have this picture. But um, this

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SPEAKER_00 24:41

is rough. So trigger warning at the end of this, some of the language. Uh, it's a DoorDash, leave it door. It says, whoops, it says, if you grab my order and stack other orders with it, my food will arrive cold or hot and melted for dessert orders, and you will not receive a tip after it's dropped off. Choose your orders wisely. Also use your fucking brain, put the food to the side, not directly in front of my fucking door, you're fucks. So that's rough. Um that is rough. I don't that's that's a wild thing to put in your notes. It really is, yeah. For somebody that's handling your food, yeah. Like I mean, okay, you're not gonna tip, but I I'll I'm just gonna like I'm just gonna step on your food then. Like, you know what I mean? Like, I I would feel if I read that, I probably am not getting a tip anyways.

SPEAKER_02 25:33

Yeah, probably not, probably not.

SPEAKER_00 25:35

Because people like this are kind of just crackpots, and it's like I don't know. And I don't even know why DoorDash allows that to even be put in there because I'm I'm pretty sure that's like the regular notes, and I'm I I think it's in there all the time. Yeah, and I know they have AI like reading the chats and it will flag it if you're yeah, you how can that not get flagged? Yeah, because it's it's sitting there, you don't even have to do it at on real time, you can just like randomly run through notes, I guess. I don't know. I you would think that they would be able to do that, but that's just that's just uncalled for.

SPEAKER_02 26:13

Yeah, um yeah, you know, there's we understand, you know, don't put food in front of people's door, you know, where they can't open it without knocking the food over. That's pretty basic. But there's no reason to to be that extreme about it.

SPEAKER_00 26:26

I mean, right. And if you're upset about the stacking, talk to DoorDash about that. Or go get your own freaking food, or spend the two dollars for priority. You're already spending a shit ton. It's it's it's elevated prices. What's two more dollars to get the priority? You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03 26:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:46

Um, it just pisses me off when I see that. Once I would say once a week, I do actually see somebody put in the notes, which I don't actually care about because I think too many people do it, and we see it online, is putting shit in front of the door where it opens. I mean, it's simple to see where the hinge is and where the handle is and if it pulls out or pushes in. Yeah, it's not rocket science. It takes No, it is not. I mean, you literally could do seven other things at the same time looking at the door and still know where to put it. Yep. Yeah, still figure it out. I mean, I'll even, even if it's like a small porch and I know it swings out, I

Banning Uber Lyft Surveillance Pricing

SPEAKER_00 27:21

might I'll stack it on the edge, the steps, everything, so that they can come out, open the door fully, grab their food. Even if some of the food's behind the door, at least it's not going to get knocked off, or you know what I mean. Exactly. It's just it's just a common sense courtesy thing. Like, why would you want? I mean, whatever. I guess what I'm saying is I don't mind that note because I'm like, I'm with you.

SPEAKER_02 27:45

Yeah, I'm yeah, I don't mind that note at all. Yeah, it doesn't bother me because I'm sure they're putting it there because it's happened to them.

SPEAKER_00 27:51

Yes, they didn't just think of it. Yeah, but calling them an R-word, you know, F and R word, and like do I'm never gonna deliver to you again, and I might fart on your sandwich. Yeah, I mean, that's just yeah, that's just way over the line. Yeah, people need to like take a frickin' chill pill. And again, like you said, if they're so fucking butthurt about all this, just go get it. That's yeah, it's problem solved unless you know, unless you have a disability. But like I would say that person probably doesn't. They they probably just you know are are lazy.

SPEAKER_02 28:29

I mean and that what gets me is like what do they what do they really hope to accomplish by that? You think these people are gonna go, oh, oh my gosh. Oh, I'm so so sorry. Yeah, I'm so sorry, you're right. You know, I'm so stupid. You know, that's not gonna happen. People are gonna just it's immediately gonna turn them against you. And I you don't want to do that with somebody that's handling your food for no reason.

SPEAKER_00 28:51

Yeah, it's just it's I wish you could see those notes before you pick up the order.

SPEAKER_02 28:56

Yes, wouldn't it be nice?

SPEAKER_00 28:57

Like I wouldn't then I'd be I'd cancel.

SPEAKER_02 28:59

Yeah, I think you'd get a lot more uh you know, you'd go a lot further just put in there, you know, please don't leave in front of the door. That's all you have to do.

SPEAKER_00 29:06

Yeah, I'm like, yeah, no duh, I'm with you. Thank you. Gotcha. No problem. It does not offend me that you said that because there's a bunch of idiots out there.

SPEAKER_02 29:13

Yes. But to put it like the way they did, you know, there's just ways to say things in in ways you don't need to say guarantee their kids don't talk to them.

SPEAKER_00 29:20

I guarantee it. All right, Larry, let's talk about drift, our favorite, favorite thing. In fact, when I moved, uh moved, I always say I'm a people mover. When I moved my wife tonight to the concert, she's like, hot damn, it smells good in here. I'm like, I can't smell it.

SPEAKER_02 29:35

Yeah, I know. I I go I do the exact same thing with my wife. She'll get in and say, Oh my god, that scent smells so good. I'm like, you can still smell it. I was like, I can't smell it. Yeah, I thought it had gone away. She's like, No, no, I can then the riders get in, passengers get in, they're like, Oh my gosh, it smells so good in here. Yeah, yeah. So it was drift is a um subscription-based air freshener. You can get uh it comes in a little piece of wood or a little piece of slate you can get. And I think they have a piece of metal now, but what it does is come soaked in these like uh essential oil scents, and they're always really good. They're not overwhelming, they're not artificial smelling, they're not uh super sweet. I'm really I've I've had them for about three years, and I get so many compliments from passengers on how good my car smells. Can't recommend them highly enough.

SPEAKER_00 30:22

Yeah, it's great. Um, the link is in the description. If you sign up, I think you get a free month, and then we get a free month. So we're we're not even like associated with them at all, but we just love it so much. And I think it's if you especially if you're a ride share driver.

SPEAKER_02 30:37

Yes, if you're a ride share driver, you're missing out if you don't have it.

SPEAKER_00 30:41

And it's and it's not like overpowering. Like you think about I know people do complain about some of those being overpowering. I wouldn't say it's overpowering at all.

SPEAKER_02 30:50

No, no, and it's already like I said, it's it's it's natural smelling, it doesn't smell artificial, it doesn't smell like super sweet or anything like that. Uh I don't know uh, you know, who their mixologist is or whatever they call the person who makes it, but they do a really good job.

SPEAKER_00 31:06

Well, the thing is, like now it's I mean, I'm sure the Europe is way I I know Europe is way better than us than on chemicals and shit and food. But recently over here, a lot of people are talking about those, you know, the run-of-the-mill air fresheners have a lot of chemicals that they pump out of that. And I as far as I can tell, you know, I haven't seen anything on their website. They don't have all that stuff now. I don't know how they're doing it.

unknown 31:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:31

Uh, but maybe we are getting cancer. I don't know. We'll never know. We'll something else will get us anyway.

SPEAKER_02 31:37

So yeah, but and mine runs uh I had to do the wood one, and it's about 11 between 11 and $12 a month.

SPEAKER_00 31:43

And I think mine is $15. Now what that free one I got. This is the longest ad ever. That free one I got, I did get a wood one. Did you? Okay. Yeah. They I think that's what they they sent out. I don't think I could get the other kind, but it's fine. It does the same thing. And it's still metally or it's still magnetically clips on the the clip I got.

SPEAKER_02 32:04

So yeah, yep.

SPEAKER_00 32:05

All right, moving on. Uh Larry, this is uh this is actually from me, but you can go ahead and present it.

SPEAKER_02 32:13

All right. So yeah, this is uh this is from Walmart Spark. Uh message says offers tailored to your preferences. This is we're Jason. We're just no, it says just now. We're changing how we're changing how we show you offers based on the offers you select and other eligibility factors. The app will learn which offers you prefer and show you more like those first. You keep choosing the offers that work best for you. Rejecting offers will not count against you. So uh yeah, so then give a whole lot of detail there.

SPEAKER_00 32:46

No, in in typical gig fashion or gig form, um, you know, it's it's something I got. I threw it in the group. Looks like they've all gotten it. Uh, like Cody in our telegram group, him and I got it on the same day, and he's in Louisiana, and then Susan from New Jersey said she got it three months ago. So it's like, okay, why what's your rhyme or reason? Um it is interesting. We're gonna show you the offers based on the offers you typically select, which okay, but I want I yeah, I I want I want I do I want the offers that pay a lot and are short miles.

SPEAKER_02 33:21

Right.

SPEAKER_00 33:21

I want bangers every time. Every time. So I I'm assuming they're not gonna do that, obviously.

SPEAKER_02 33:27

Um inject all the other ones.

SPEAKER_00 33:29

Yeah, you can keep choosing offers that work best for you, rejecting. Yeah, I know the rejectings won't, but like what does that mean? I guess I would say it's probably more do you like shopping or do you like curbside? I'm like, I like whatever's gonna pay. Yeah, yeah, I have a different criteria for shopping than I do for for curbside and so on and so forth, um, which is obvious. If you're spending more time inside, you're gonna, you know, want a little bit more. But if you're just sitting in your car listening to podcasts and you know, you don't have to get as much.

SPEAKER_02 34:03

Yeah, like I'll take it.

SPEAKER_00 34:05

Yes, for sure. Uh, and then speaking of Walmart, this is actually mine too. Um, this uh I call I didn't whoops, I didn't bleep out the ad. So who cares? What are you gonna do, Carla? Don't don't send her anything nasty. Uh it was a delivery, it was in an okay neighborhood. I've been over there before, but it said urgent. No, this isn't customer note, and this is actually new, Larry. This customer note thing will now pop up and you have to acknowledge it, which I'm which I'm fine with. Like the I like that. The more information I can get, I want to deliver the best product, whatever is possible.

SPEAKER_02 34:42

Like it's yeah, I'd much rather have it pop up than me not have to go dig for it and maybe not see it. Correct. And it'd be something important.

SPEAKER_00 34:49

Yes. So it says urgent, do not park and drive. Now, this is a small residential neighborhood, and I'm like, okay, please park in the street. We've had two oil stains on new concrete from Walmart delivery and like exclamation points everywhere. Place on front porch and do not enter porch if feet are muddy. Also, no smoking in car with our items. Thanks. So, a couple of things. The smoking, absolutely. Um, I've had an order from Walmart with smoke, and I immediately called them and they refunded me the entire thing like that.

SPEAKER_02 35:19

Yeah, I wouldn't take it. I wouldn't take it, I wouldn't.

SPEAKER_00 35:21

It stinks, it does, it is all in your food. So this lady had a camera, and I think I talked about it in the chat, but it had a camera up, like it was ADT. It was actually like the ADT, and it said video has cloud recording or something, like basically saying that if you grab the camera, we still have the footage. I'm like, Yeah, lady, every fucking camera has cloud recording now. Like it, but I parked in the driveway. I backed up and I unloaded the groceries, and I'm I just I don't know. I just I I do try to follow the rules a little bit, but she had like a case of water and a bunch of pops. I'm like, no, I do not get paid enough to walk this all the way up. Now, that being said, I had an Amazon delivery a couple days ago that said, please park in the road. And I was like gonna say, fuck you. But when I pulled up, there was kids playing in the driveway, and it was a little bit longer driveway, but it was only a small box. I was like, you know what? I pulled into the driveway, but right at the top, I just stopped. Now, if there were no if the garage door was down and there were no kids, I'd have drove right up that fucker. And I think Amazon's more thinking about the trucks or the vans. You know what I mean? The piece of shits that are they beat to hell and probably do leak oil and they're fucking. I mean, we I shouldn't say just the vans. We watched that lady driving the grass. So it's it's flex workers too. But I mean I did I do I do I know UPS does a lot of walking, I get that, but they make fifty bucks an hour. You know, they're a union shop and they take care of them. Like I'm not making bank for me to go and walk, you know, two tenths of a mile to deliver your shit for whatever I'm making, yeah, 25 an hour using my own car. I'm I'm not sure I'm gonna do that.

SPEAKER_02 37:18

Yeah, especially if it's something like groceries where, like you said, there's water, yeah. You know, it's gonna be multiple trips. Not like even a package where you just it's just one trip. You know, you walk up there, put it on there, and you leave. You know, you'd be making multiple trips for these groceries.

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SPEAKER_00 37:31

Yeah. So I mean, I guess that one that I just showed, I guess I could have done it from the street because it was just a residential. I mean, average residential, I think, is like maybe 200 feet driveway. It's not that long. But I don't know, people's audacity and then the mud too. I'm like, who who are these fucking farmers delivering this Walmart order? Like, where do you have muddy like they love their concrete? And it's not even, it's like, I don't know, maybe it was an old note because it's a newer neighborhood, but the concrete's already starting to weather. It's not like it's white, you know, when it freezes.

SPEAKER_02 38:08

Like, uh, it's already been stained twice. What's one more gonna hurt?

SPEAKER_00 38:10

Yeah, and and then and then if she I already had my uh argument planned. If she says, I didn't want to parking because the oil says, ma'am, this is an electric vehicle. Yep, there's no oil to stain, you're good, we're golden.

unknown 38:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 38:25

Oh man. Uh, all right, Larry, Uber insurance story has a five point eight billion dollar problem. Tell me about that.

SPEAKER_02 38:34

I did read it, and of course, yeah, it's a pretty long article, so we'll try to cover it if we can. So um, you know, um, there's always this debate of why is Uber taking so much money and giving the drivers so much less. And one of their big reasons that they always uh talk about is the cost of insurance they have to pay for their uh for their drivers. Uh it says uh in California, 31% of the average rider fare goes to insurance. Um in New Jersey, uh UM UIM coverage requirements are 50 times what private vehicle owners face. Um the company is not gouging drivers or riders, it's passing through genuine costs, government-mandated costs. That's Uber side of the story, right? But there's been three different independent research efforts saying that it's not really the true story.

SPEAKER_00 39:29

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 39:30

One of the things this um this first uh uh report found, it's a May 2026 report from Consumer Watchdog, which found that Uber's self-insurance reserves grew from 6.7 billion in 2023 to 12.5 billion in 2025. So 5.8 billion dollars more in reserves over the last two years. That's a lot of that's a lot of cheddar to be putting back in two years. Um listen to this too. Consumer watchdogs also found that Uber tied executive compensation to passage of SB 371 and other insurance reform efforts in 2025. The same legislation that, if successful, would reduce Uber's mandated coverage and allow further reserves. My God. Yes. So the second one, um let's see. Um the second one talks, it talks about we talked about this story before. It was from Columbia Business School. It's where they tracked um three US veteran drivers for over 10 years and how much take, you know, how much take Uber's uh you know take and how much it's gone up. So that was the second report. And then the third one's from Oxford University. They talk about some of the most specific findings uh that that go against you know the Uber's you know uh explanation of this. They said they they looked at a hundred nearly identical trips by the same driver on the same route. A Tesla Model Y going from Ithaca to Syracuse Airport, which is probably something like 60 miles, same driver, same vehicle, same service type. Ubers reported estimated commercial auto insurance and operational expenses on those trips varied anywhere from $13.75 to $50. Damn. Yeah. So he said he did study. He said day of the week, time of the day, service type were statistically insignificant. What predicted the variance is the rider price and the driver pay. So there's no actuarial, I can't pronounce that word, basis on which commercial insurance costs should behave this way. Uh the risk profile of those hundred trips was as close to identical as real world dat real world data will permit, but the insurance line varied by more than 3.6 to one.

SPEAKER_00 41:58

Yeah, that's crazy.

SPEAKER_02 42:00

That is crazy. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 42:02

So I I have to tell you, um, I had I took this article and put it in chat. I was like, because I I looked at it too and I was like, geez, this is hard. You do it, yeah. Larry, you do a great job. Uh you just do a good job. I give you the the bigger articles because you're able to capture it better than me because my 80, I just can't do it. I'm a I'm terrible.

SPEAKER_02 42:23

Thank you, man. I appreciate it.

SPEAKER_00 42:25

Um, so it says, okay, so this is what chat says I should say, because I was like, hey, I'm live on a podcast. How should I present it? And I didn't use it or send it because it sounds, it doesn't sound like us. I was like, write it like me. It's like he it says, All right, I have a question. Has anyone at Uber actually looked at these insurance fees? Because I'm not sure even Uber knows how they work. There's a root new report saying Uber has a $5.8 billion insurance problem. Researchers looked at two rides that were basically the same, same route, same driver, same car, which you said. And and one ride had about a $14 insurance operations fees, while the other was almost $50. $50? What happened? Did the second passenger ask to drive through Jurassic Park? I had I had I told him to make it funny too. Uh now Uber says these fees aren't tied to that specific trip. They're spread out to uh cover insurance and operating costs. Okay, fair enough. But here's where the drivers start scratching their heads. If insurance costs are coming down, why isn't driver pay going up? That's the million dollar or I guess $5.8 billion question. Have you ever if you ever looked at your earnings after a trip and thought, where did my money go? You're definitely not alone. So it wrote it pretty good, right? It it touched on the son of the stuff you did, but doesn't it it'd be I think that would be good if I memorized it, but reading it kind of sounds clunky, right? A little, a little bit, yeah. I mean, I obviously you see me looking down. Yeah. I mean, if if I did it right, I would have like a teleprompter, but I thought it did an okay job, but not enough where I was I was gonna give it to you and go like, yeah, do this with it. But I do. I see some of those articles, and I'm just like, Jimmy Cricket. Like, how am I gonna pull and like I said, you do a you do a good job of that.

SPEAKER_02 44:08

So thank you, man. I appreciate it. Shout out to shout out to Pete in the chat. Uh good to see him online.

SPEAKER_00 44:13

Oh, Peter Boy.

SPEAKER_02 44:14

He's one of the OG, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 44:16

Oh man, we we talked about you on the last show because we didn't we say diamond bitch, because we were talking about like why Uber goes blue, gold, diamond, diamond. Like, why don't we go like the whole world, like gold, silver, bronze? Like fucking idiots. Uber's always got to be different. But yeah, I was like, yeah, that he was diamond bitch, he was our original.

SPEAKER_02 44:39

OG Diamond Bitch.

SPEAKER_00 44:40

Yeah, the OG back in the day.

SPEAKER_02 44:42

You know it. Remember when all that came out, man? It was a big deal. It was a big deal. Yeah. We were all fighting for those points.

SPEAKER_00 44:52

I mean, honestly, Gabe's got to be diamond bitch, right? Because he's doing all those quests. You know what I mean? Not to say he doesn't decline anything, and Pete did decline stuff too, especially Ivory or you know, the car seats. But my point is, is like Gabe's gotta be diamond because he's doing all those quests, which hey, if they're good, if they're great for him, yeah, then I say go for it. But I I did overhear him this week saying he's a really peopled out.

SPEAKER_02 45:18

Like it's yeah, he swings back and forth. He yeah, he'll he'll do he'll hit it hard for a while and then he'll get people out, and then he'll he'll stick to shopping and food delivery and you know Amazon Flex and stuff for for a while, and then he'll be like, oh, you know, maybe I'll do people again for a little bit.

SPEAKER_00 45:35

But well, and and that's what's great about gig work is the flexibility. If the money's there, I I would I worry I would get locked, like if I was full-time, I would get locked into something that pays really good, and then I I fucking hate it. Then I get to a point I'm like, okay, now it's now I'm nine to five or six to three or whatever, doing the same ride share, whatever it is. I hate my life. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03 45:59

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 46:00

Um, because and he's in a good market, so that does help.

SPEAKER_02 46:04

That helps, that makes all the difference. But I mean, I get zero quests. If I if I got more, if I got any quest, I might be

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SPEAKER_02 46:11

diamond two.

SPEAKER_00 46:12

Well, I was just thinking, like, let you know, to doing the same thing. If I if I only did DoorDash over here, now again, I don't know if I started doing it more, they would give me some better offers, but I would be broke.

unknown 46:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 46:25

Like I would sit on the app for eight hours and make fifty bucks.

SPEAKER_02 46:28

Yeah, yeah, can't be doing that.

SPEAKER_00 46:30

Yeah, I mean, that's just you know, that's just not enough. I just not enough to do. So, but anyways, I bet Gabe's diamond. We'll have to ask him next time we're in the chat. Are you diamond bitch?

SPEAKER_01 46:41

Probably not the original diamond bitch, but I guess do they they seem I guess diamond's still a thing.

SPEAKER_00 46:46

Oh yeah. Oh yeah, for sure it's a thing. A hundred percent. Yeah. I that that I don't think the the names have changed or the tiers, they've just added or subtracted yeah, different what it what that means.

SPEAKER_02 46:59

Yeah, what it the perks are.

SPEAKER_00 47:00

Yeah. So uh so Texas uh AG had just announced a $13 million Walmart settlement over driver pay. I'm pretty sure uh this is the same one that we have dealt with in Michigan and and maybe New Jersey and Vegas, but state investigators allege Walmart misrepresented driver pay, including customer pre-tips selected at checkout, base pay, and incentive opportunities. Um so it's $13 million. They've already paid like half of it out. Um, my guess my question is is like how do they figure this out? Like, we've talked about this before. Like, I'm all I mean, I'm I guess not smart enough to know, or maybe I don't go but back and track it. Like, you would have to take a screenshot of every order. I mean, it's a lot of work, and I guess I'm glad there are people out there that get obsessed with it, so it kind of helps us out too. I guess I just don't have the bandwidth to do that, but and maybe you know, I'm glad people do it. But the settlement requires Walmart to improve transparency and ensure drivers are paid fairly. The attorney general office said it will continue reviewing records. Well, now you're on the hook. Like now that the AG's involved, they're gonna be like every three months pulling, like, you know, whoever they talk with pulling some data and and fucking looking at it. But yeah, I don't I don't know. I hope I just hoping Walmart's being honest. I mean, I'll honestly I don't even know if I even get tip baited. I just don't go back unless yeah, unless it's a nice one, like if it's a fifty dollar one or something, like if it's eight dollars and tips, I mean, I guess if you want to pull that back, like okay.

SPEAKER_02 48:46

Like yeah, yeah. I don't think uh in Walmart, yeah, I don't think I ever went back and looked at stuff. I mean, he's who's got that kind of time.

SPEAKER_00 48:55

Well, that's what I'm saying. And and and I guess I'm blessed that I don't have to hunt it down. I I mean I'll

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SPEAKER_00 49:01

take that, but also, like I said, if you need to take your four dollar tip back, I mean there ain't nothing I can do about it anyways.

SPEAKER_02 49:08

Exactly. It's just it it does it's not gonna, you know, it's not gonna change anything. Yeah, it is what it is, but yeah, I mean if you spend all that time to go back and track, you got that at you're just lowering your hourly rate then. Yeah, gotta add those hours into what you made.

SPEAKER_00 49:21

Well, yeah, at that point, why aren't you out hustling more work? You're spending all this time tracking it down, and and I can see on the incentives if they're if it popped up and they're off, that's easier to track, right? And I do look at that. If they're gonna offer me a four-dollar incentive for an order and I go back and I saw it on there and it's not there, then that's easy to track. But the tips are just like, yeah, I don't have time for that. But Pete said Diamond Bitch is like the Highlander. I don't even know what that is.

SPEAKER_02 49:47

I know the Highlander show, you've never seen that?

SPEAKER_00 49:50

I've never seen it.

SPEAKER_02 49:51

Oh, you gotta see it. Uh it's so funny. Episode two of that. There's a crowd scene, guys walking through looks exactly like me. Meanwhile, watch it. I'll show you sometime. I'll send you the clip. Yeah, it's so funny. That's crazy. It's a good show, yeah. Yeah, it's about immortals and uh these people that are immortals. So whenever they get killed, whatever they can't die, but whenever like like their first time they get have something happen to them which would kill them, that's the age they just stay for forevermore. But they have to find the other immortals that are in the world and they fight and they have to kill them by beheading them.

SPEAKER_00 50:28

I who do you remember the lead actor that uh what was his name?

SPEAKER_02 50:33

Adrian Paul.

SPEAKER_00 50:34

Okay, that doesn't ring a bell. I think I can I think I remember it now. I don't I didn't ever see it, but yeah.

SPEAKER_02 50:40

There's a Highlander movie first, and then uh I think it was first and then uh then the show came on. Uh is this like 90s, 2000s? Uh I don't know, you know, probably 40s? No, not 40s, no. Uh let me look it up.

SPEAKER_00 50:58

If it was in the four well, if it was back then, they'd put you to death for talking about like immortal stuff, you know.

SPEAKER_02 51:05

Uh premiered on October 3rd, 1992.

SPEAKER_00 51:08

Oh my god, I was a frickin' sophomore in high school. Oh goodness. Pete probably wasn't even born. All right. Uh moving on. Waymo in the news. Another article, no video. Um, didn't see one pop up, but over the 4th of July weekend um in San Francisco, there was a ton of Waymo cars that were stranded uh in San Francisco, and their gridlock drained their batteries and they died. So um looks like oh, I guess there was a video. I didn't even see that. Uh showed at least a dozen stationary Waymo vehicles, many of them Jaguar iPaced models lined up on a city's street um while they're watching the the fireworks by the Golden Gate Bridge. Um a couple of them drove over fireworks. Like, watch somebody light it because the passenger was like, I watched them light it in the middle of the thing, and and the car just just drove. Um no one was hurt in that one, but there was another one where it did drive over it. Where was I reading that? Um like caught on fire or something. Maybe it didn't caught on fire, but anyways, um yeah, so it here's the thing. There is battery anxiety in an electric car. I I I can imagine.

SPEAKER_02 52:41

I know I would I would think about it all the time.

SPEAKER_00 52:43

I mean, because here's the thing it's more I it's more of an ordeal if you run out of juice. Like you have to you have to get a tow truck. Or you triple A, I know, does have generators on the back where you can plug in. I mean, because chances are you're trying to be responsible and you're close to home or you're close to a charger. But yeah, it's just seems like a little bit more work when you run out of uh a battery. Although, and gas too, I feel like you never know what it is, and you there's fumes. I mean, that that's a thing. Like I've I've literally rolled in and negative on my pilot, like negative 30 miles, and I still had gas in it. Like it didn't even stall, so it's like you never know, but battery is battery, it's on or off.

SPEAKER_02 53:29

Yeah, oh man, yeah. I I

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SPEAKER_02 53:31

have enough anxiety with my just my phone. I can imagine it in my car. Well, the phone is easy because there's portable chargers everywhere.

SPEAKER_00 53:37

You just slap it on, and you're just like understand.

SPEAKER_02 53:40

Um so I'm just saying I would be way, way worse in a car.

SPEAKER_00 53:45

And I think I think I don't know if it's the last show or the show before. I can't remember. I talked about I have a minor max that's based on my usage, and I always base it on the minimum. If I'm above the minimum by 20 miles, I'm good. I don't flirt with the real number or the max number. We don't touch those numbers. Yeah, it's the minimum number that we touch, and we go above it.

SPEAKER_02 54:06

Exactly. Yeah, build a little cushion.

SPEAKER_00 54:09

Yeah, but I guess Waymo's gonna have to figure it out. Like you're gonna have, and maybe they haven't had this happen before. I feel like the entire town of San Francisco is a gridlock. But I mean, I guess on definitely on the fourth with the big fireworks, I I guess it could be worse. But oh yeah, y'all are gonna have to figure it out. Like, this can't happen. There's a bunch of people that were stranded and you know, getting out of their Waymo's, and it's just you're driving over fireworks, like yeah.

SPEAKER_02 54:36

I can't oh yeah, I can only imagine. I I don't know if the Waymo's are operating right now in Nashville. I know they they uh halted them there for a little bit because one of the reasons that they've had the I the I can't remember if it's the construction one or the flooding or whatever, but I can only imagine them on Fourth of July down around downtown with uh you know there's four hundred thousand people on Broadway watching the fireworks. Jeez.

SPEAKER_00 55:04

Four hundred how is that even Broadway's not that long? I mean it's not. What is it? Is it even a mile? It's not even a mile.

SPEAKER_02 55:14

No, it goes it goes down further, but uh and and I I mean I'm sure that's there's people down in the park too and side streets and stuff, but yeah. I mean we had actually thought about going down this year, but it's so freaking hot. And and oh yeah, we just they had the they have it's gotten Nashville's the fireworks has gotten uh pretty pretty big uh popular. They used to show you know just glimpses of it on some of the shows that on on TV that night, but they they actually had ABC put on a whole it was like three or four hour special that Ryan Secret hosted this year from Nashville. Yeah, yeah, just from Nashville.

SPEAKER_00 55:45

You know what? Because I don't don't care about Ryan Secrest, but I love Taylor Swift. He finally announced that he did get invited to her wedding, and like his co-host was so pissed because he couldn't say anything like he had known about it, you know what I mean? But he turned that wedding down to go host that. There ain't no way I'm turning down the oh he Larry's dying. There ain't no way I'm turning down the wedding of the century, y'all. Of this hundred well, maybe not the hundred years, at least the last 50 years. I'm going to that wedding, I'm turning the work down. You're a multimillionaire. Who gives a shit?

SPEAKER_02 56:21

Yeah. I mean I think he makes 60 million just from Wheel of Fortune.

SPEAKER_00 56:25

Yeah, fuck. So I guess my point is I th I I what I was gonna say is I think it's cool, and maybe because it was the 250th they did this. I kind of think now this hear me out. I kind of think we should do the float thing like we do for the Macy's Day parade for Thanksgiving for the 4th of July. I think that would be cool. You know what I mean? And like, and and then at the end of it, it's I mean, although it's at night, though, you know what I mean? Because I was gonna say, like, at the end, you have the fireworks. Like the Macy's Day is like you see Santa and every and they're like, Okay, we're done. Let's go eat, watch football, which is fine for me, but I'm just saying it would be cool to have like the finale of the parade is this just this huge firework thing.

SPEAKER_02 57:12

Yeah, and what I like even more now is the drone shows. Those are crazy, yeah. They had that in in Nashville as well. But uh yeah, they had all sorts of different performers, um all sorts of different genres, you know, singing uh singing that night. It's a pretty good show. And then after when it was done, me and wife were like, oh man, we're glad we don't have to fight that traffic and drive back to Bowling Green.

SPEAKER_00 57:36

Oh my gosh. One thing about the drone thing I thought about, I saw some kids setting one up, like online. I didn't, I wasn't around in person, but how do they come back when the one like didn't charge or you know, because they all must have batteries or they have mounting stations, right? And you take one, you you know, you gotta set them all up. I know it's a computer program that runs them. I get that part of it, but like is it noticeable when one doesn't work? You know what I mean? I don't know. I'd be curious if they're like they have a backup or I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 58:08

I'm sure they yeah, you'd think they probably have have have a few spare, but yeah, I don't know if I don't know if like just one being out, I don't know if that'd make that big a difference. Right.

SPEAKER_00 58:18

Or do they run a test? I mean, I I would imagine they don't do it. I mean they probably test it like you know, way away from the location, but once they get there, it probably takes a couple hours to set up and then you're ready to go.

SPEAKER_02 58:30

So it's yeah, amazing stuff though.

SPEAKER_00 58:32

Yeah, it is amazing. All right, uh, I think I'm gonna stop there. Uh, I just want to talk about Patreon. Go to patreon.com slash the Gigacon podcast. Love for you to join us. We do have a couple articles we didn't get to that we'll get to on the Patreon uh 8, 10 p.m. after every show. Uh you can get on there live and uh talk to us and listen to the stories and we take our shirts off. And no, we don't. No one wants to see that. But uh Larry,

Walmart Settlement And Waymo July Fourth Chaos

SPEAKER_00 59:01

any gig work this weekend?

SPEAKER_02 59:03

Let me see.

SPEAKER_00 59:05

Um, no, you were supposed to go somewhere on Saturday, you said last week.

SPEAKER_02 59:10

Yeah, Saturday I'm going up to um uh Cincinnati to see monster trucks.

SPEAKER_00 59:15

That's right, monster trucks.

SPEAKER_02 59:17

Yeah, I can take my wife to the airport. I think her flights are like six o'clock or six thirty in the morning, so we'll be leaving here in a really, really, really early hour. God damn it, you those early flights for you. Yeah. But uh they're the best though, because you have way less chance of them being delayed. Yeah. Um, and that way, you know, she gets out to California and gets gets to spend most of the day there. So yeah, she'll be flying out that morning, then I'll be driving up uh to see the monster tracks. But Sunday, possibly.

SPEAKER_00 59:45

Uh oh, you'll be exhausted. Are you kidding me? After getting up that although you don't require as much sleep as I do, but yeah, I might there's a possibility uh one of my friends uh texts me today.

SPEAKER_02 59:56

He wants to go see another one of our friends that lives up in Louisville. So we may do that Sunday. Okay. It all depends on that. If I don't do that, I will do some gig work.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:03

Yeah, for me, um, I mean, I do pretty much gig work almost every day. I didn't today because I had some other obligations, but I'll be out tomorrow, I'll be out Friday, and I got white caps all week too. So um, yeah, probably on Saturday and Sunday, maybe I'll just try to grab a route. Maybe I don't I'll sleep in, but yeah, it's pretty much gig work almost every day, except well, normally I don't do Tuesdays because Tuesdays are slow, but this week I did because I had shit to do today. So but swap it up, swap it out. That's the the great part about gig work. Like, hey, I know Tuesdays are slow, but like you're gonna have and I did end up doing a route and a few Walmarts, but you kind of gotta do what you gotta do if you got plans for the other day. So all right, as always, don't put up with anyone's bullshit, and we'll see you on road. All right, eight ten, eight

Patreon Aftershow And Weekend Plans

SPEAKER_00 1:00:51

minutes. Hey, good night. Hey, good to see you, Pete. Yeah, Pete. Fuck you, diamond bitch.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:57

Gotta pay.