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Gig Economy Chaos: Dave Ramsey Uber Warning, Hero Uber Driver, DoorDash Scandal | Ep 280
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We tear into the hidden math of gig work, from bonuses that look great on paper to car notes that choke your margins. A spill, a triple batch, a Lyft perk change, and a Waymo near a felony stop all point to the same lesson: treat this like a business or the job will run you.
• stocking cleanup gear for fast recovery in the car
• using stackable bonuses to lift weak orders
• denying low-value trips and avoiding deadhead
• why expensive cars for rideshare rarely add up
• Lyft rewards changes and what to watch next
• Uber Eats scheduling screens in select markets
• multi-apping with two phones without verification flags
• when to cancel add-ons like mall drops on peak days
• Waymo’s blind spot near a police stop and human judgment
• BabyQuip and laundry apps as micro-business plays
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Hello, hello, welcome to the game podcast episode 280. We're gonna talk about Dave Ramsey on the show. Dave Ramsey. Uh gets a Uber warning. Uh hero Uber driver, and of course, always DoorDash Candle. Thank you guys so much for joining. Hi, Bubba Sue. Josh says, What's up, ladies and Larry? I kind of chuckled out loud during the uh during the intro video.
SPEAKER_03:So how's it going, Larry? I'm doing well, man. It's good to be back after uh uh having a week off. Feels like it's been forever, but uh ready to ready to do it tonight. For sure.
SPEAKER_02:Go to gig economyshow.com for everything gig economy related. I want to talk about our Patreon members who we love dearly, dearly, dearly. As soon as I can get move my phone and get to the slide. Uh our members are Bud Dickman from North Carolina, uh, Omar from Detroit, Frank from Philly, Tom from McHenry, Illinois, Jim from Connecticut, Miguel from GR, Linda from Tampa, Jerry Gillette from Kentucky, Faith from Las Vegas, Metal Kickass from Louisiana, and Anna from New York City. Uh thank you guys so much for supporting the show. If you would like to support the show, go to Gig Economy Show. Nope. Go to patreon.com slash the Gig Econ Podcast. I gotta change that fucking name too. Gig Econ. I gotta, I gotta do something. So I'm I'm gonna do it, be doing some tweaks this Christmas break. Uh go there. You can sign up for the$3,$7, or$15 tier. Gets you all kinds of extra stuff, whatever. Like you get uh live Patreon bonuses, you get pre-ramble, you get all that fucking great stuff. So if you love the show and you got a couple bucks to support it, we would really appreciate it. And then we also have a telegram group that we talk shit in and uh talk about the weather and our chai lattes and all that fun stuff. Larry's gonna tell us about that.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, so our telegram group, that's the main way that we communicate with each other. It's uh messaging app, uh it's kind of like a texting app, but besides doing text, you can also do video messages and voice messages, which we use a lot. It's um it's not easy to text when you're out there driving, delivering, or uh doing passengers. So uh it's much easier to just hit that button, do a voice message, and everybody can listen to it. We have gig workers all over the country uh that's in our telegram group, and it's a good way to get to know some other people who do gig work who know what you're going through. We talk about all the you know what hot gigs are going on, what new gigs are out there, uh, what's not doing so well anymore. So yeah, we'd love to have you join our telegram group. We're always looking for more people to get in and join the chatter.
SPEAKER_02:And then obviously, everything that we talk about, uh, there should be links in the description. I do have a clip of the week. Yeah, um, and Faith is uh pretty faithful uh uh sharing that and I don't pick them. I don't pick them. They she picks them to me. So this is actually me. I kind of forgot about this until I I pulled it down. So uh we're gonna play that. Uh this is the clip of the week from the Telegram group. Fuck! I was fuck. I was delivering little Caesars, and I put it on the seat like a fucking noob, and I don't know if it was grease, I think it was the garlic oil dip. Must have been like the cat, must have had a hole in it. All in the crack of my seat. It's gonna smell like butter in here for a week. Fuck! Oh, it's plain. I was fuck. I was delivering little I hate that it uh I hate that it always puts on like the loop right away. So that yes, that was me. Uh bring the hate. I they gave me a lot of shit because in the telegram group because I don't I don't use a bag. Um and yeah, somehow I think there might have best must have been a hole in the uh a um the butter garlic that they give. I I'm pretty sure that's what because the the the copious amounts of all on the seat were like a lot. It wasn't just grease. So and so yeah, I cleaned it up. I always, you know, this is I mean, I don't know how I can tip this, but if you don't do this, I have a roll of paper towel, and then I have actually like an old like bath towel in there too. You just never know what you're gonna run into. And that was mostly for ride share, honestly, back in the day. Yeah, for sure. So I was able to clean most of it up, and uh it's fine, it doesn't smell like that anymore.
SPEAKER_03:And um yeah, yeah, that's a that's a tip for newbies. Whether you're doing ride share or food delivery, have cleaning stuff in your trunk, whether it's towels, you know, uh deodorizer for your for the inside of your car, um, you know, paper towels, you know, just a few things like that.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, you never know. Uh Josh says, gonna have cheese curd stains. Nope. I have leather. I'm not I don't drive a Tesla with with uh cloth seats like you. And then he says use your hot bag. Baba Seuss says use your hot bag. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, normally on pizza stuff, I'll put it on the floorboard. Like right, you know, it's it's winter time, so it's perfect.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, put it down there under the heat, man.
SPEAKER_02:Keep it toasty. I'm always keeping my feet warm. I always got cold feet, so yeah, but I didn't do it like uh like a noob. So that's that is your clip of the week. So definitely uh definitely join the group. You can hear your fun. I forgot I started out with a big F bomb. Like, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:So that's another thing we do in a couple things that we do in the in the telegram group. Uh we cuss a lot and we also give each other shit a lot.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Yeah, yeah. No, Josh, I it was sarcasm. I know, I know that I mean maybe there's claw seats, I doubt it, and even the base model, but you know, yeah. Uh all right, so stories from the road. Uh Larry, I I just gotta hear it. I hope it's not as clickbaity as you said, but in the stories from the road, we have a rundown. We just use a Google Doc and have all our stuff in there. And uh under Larry's, it says wet lips.
SPEAKER_03:So yeah, so this is uh actually from a few weeks ago. I was doing ride share. Uh had a lady, uh, it was uh probably 20 you know, around 25-year-old black lady. Um, she was dressed real nice, you know, very attractive lady, and on the phone, and as they seem like they always want to do nowadays, it's on speaker instead of on the phone, it's on speaker. So she's talking to this guy, and he's trying to get her to come over. And she's like, Baby, you know, there's lots of people that want to see me. You're gonna have to up your game if you want me to come see you. And he's and like she's really giving it to him, and and he's just talking, he's like, Oh, baby, you gotta come over. And apparently they're fine out figure out they're face timing each other, not just on speaker, they're FaceTiming because he's like, Oh, oh baby, look, those those lips, those lips are so wet because she has you know the moisturizer stuff on her lips. And she started laughing. She's she she looked at me, she's like, I'm so sorry. And she took it off a speaker for a few minutes and then put it back on, and then I mean it nothing changed. They were still, he was still trying to get her to come over and she was still walking, but I don't know why people like to have those conversations on speaker when they're in an Uber or a ride here. I would not do that.
SPEAKER_02:No, I mean I I I get annoyed when people do it in public, and in fact, uh yesterday I was at an appointment and it was very quiet. I was the only one in there, but there are some offices around, and I gotta call I looked at my phone, someone's calling, like, who the fuck's calling me? Like, I don't get phone calls, and it's 254, which is uh a school number. And I was like, Oh yeah, oh my god. So um I I I pick it up and it I'm very like like this, and it it's it's it's the bus bar. And she's like, Are you okay? I'm like, Yeah, I'm okay. What do you need? You know, I'm like all embarrassed, even though there's no one in there. But yeah, I don't know. I don't know what it is where I you know they just like put some fucking headphones in.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah, because the you know, the the talk between the two of them was getting, you know, it was starting to get a little R-rated. And yeah, I need to hear this, man.
SPEAKER_02:I don't need to hear even more than the wet lips, it was getting a little juicy.
SPEAKER_03:Uh, you know, just a lot of innuendos, and then he was, you know, he was commenting on on her and you know, different things. She's holding the camera low on her chest, and oh man, that's crazy.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, what you don't hear in the back of an Uber, you know, there's what do we always say? There's no expectation of privacy in there. It's it's it's you're in public. Although I don't know if she would have cared if they were on the street or in the Uber, but uh Yeah, I think the first time it caught her by surprise.
SPEAKER_03:She, you know, she he kind of went there and she was and she it you know, she laughed, but she was like, I'm so sorry. Yeah, she was sorry, but then she was she's getting excited about it. Yeah, and then she put because she yeah, eventually she like five minutes later, she put it back on the on speaker. I was like, just leave it, leave it, you know. We're you're talking to him. I don't have to hear anything.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I don't I don't understand that with headphones being like pretty cheap now.
SPEAKER_03:Like you yeah, or just use the phone like a normal person, put it up to your head. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Oh my gosh. Wow.
SPEAKER_03:Anything else or is that that was pretty much it. Like I said, I've I've I've been pretty uh pretty much doing uh very little gig work, just uh just trying to rehab the shoulder and uh hopefully hopefully I'll turn a corner here.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I for sure. Um for me, I actually was out doing gig work over break. People thought uh it was out in the dark. I was out in the morning. Uh gosh. I know the people in the telegram group were just like couldn't believe it. Bubba Sue was just overjoyed and shocked for uh me to be out there. So as we talked about before, I ended up getting that Uber Eats bonus again, which was$200 for 20 deliveries. Um, so I ended up doing that. I did get that. I never figured out exactly how much I made. Um, I think it was well over 400 um between the 20 deliveries. I I had some decent deliveries. I mean, and I wasn't just you know dicking around with them. I I I denied a lot. You know what I mean? I was gonna I was gonna make it worth if I was gonna be out. I mean, I'm gonna make it worth my while.
SPEAKER_03:Now, if I was up against it, I would just take whatever if you're getting down to the wire, you know, things change. You're right, the bar gets lowered a little bit. But uh, if you've got plenty of time to do it, yeah, there's no reason to take any of those really junky orders if you don't have to.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, not a lot of stories, other than the you know, obviously the the uh pizza uh grease incident or and then I was shocked uh that Uber gave me a triple. I have and it was all food. And I have never had a triple, and it wasn't honestly if I looked at the time, it wasn't that long, just the way they patterned it, it actually was decent. Okay. Um I kind of complained about it. I'm just like, but man, I can't believe I would be kind of fussy.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Even with bags, even if the driver had did bags or not, I still would be kind of fussy. Like whole.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, you look on there like, oh, your your delivery guy has two deliveries before you before you. You does it say that?
SPEAKER_02:See, I I don't know.
SPEAKER_03:I don't know if it does or not, but I mean if if they look on there and it's driving the you know, the person's driving the other way, surely it tells them that you're just like when you have a passenger in the car, it tells them you know that you're you're you have another passenger.
SPEAKER_02:Well, I I am assuming it says they're on another ride or on another delivery, but I wonder um if it says they're on two deliveries. Yeah, probably not, but um, and I guess if I really would go back and investigate it, maybe they didn't uh maybe it didn't work out that way, like the way they dropped them off. Right. Um but yeah, I don't know. I was a little shocked, and it was it was quick. I mean, it just happened to line up like one of them. I was just like, this is weird. What is what is happening? But yeah, uh, I had never done a triple. Well, I never would do it because I didn't fucking care. Right, you know, if they were gonna add a little, there was like, oh, it's a dollar a mile. I'm like, okay, I need this bonus anyways. And so I just kept adding them. I was waiting for them to add a fourth. Bring it on, bring it on.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, because they count every each one as as as a you know, one toward your goal.
SPEAKER_02:Yes, that's that's another thing. Um, you know, I I wish I, you know, I you think I would know that, but uh Uber, like a lot of like Walmart and Instacart and all that stuff, you might have a a double in there that only counts as one, but Uber, each one counts individually. So yeah, so that helps a lot. I'm I'm hoping that um I get that again. That was really nice uh to get that$200. I mean I kept saying to myself, oh, this one's seven dollars. No, it's seventeen dollars, right?
SPEAKER_03:That's a that's a big difference, yeah, yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_02:There were a couple ones that I took that I was like, uh yeah. I may have not taken it, but like, you know, it's$17 or it's sixteen dollars. But I wasn't like just willy-nilly taking whatever I wanted, right? Yeah, um, and then the other thing, I don't know if you guys remember Baby Quip.
SPEAKER_03:Uh yeah, yeah. I was excited. I saw this in our show notes. I was like, man, I mean I'm excited that there's an update.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, it's not as exciting as you think, but it's so they had so basically Baby Quip is uh well, it's kind of funny. They call it Baby Quip, but it's a rental service like for gig workers. So you'll buy a piece of equipment, set a price, you know, rent it out, go drop it off. Well, it's a whole kind of business thing. And I'm like, that's something I can get on board with. Um, and it's it's not a lot of like a lot of FaceTime with these people, you know, you're just dropping stuff off, picking it up, you know. So I signed up for it, and they were of course a wait list, and they set up a system where every month they would check in. Well, they hadn't checked in the last two months.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_02:So I sent them an email and she emailed, well, she it said Lisa, so I guess I don't know. Could be could be, you know, someone from the Philippines, but um, they were like, actually, thank you for checking in. You are actually next up uh in our area, so it shouldn't be any time now. Okay. Now, remember when we talked about we were hoping it was for the summer because it was we were coming off like the end of the school year, and I'm like, okay, I can build this up, and I'm like, right in the school year. I mean, I guess I'm gonna have to just do it a little slower.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah, you just have to ramp up a little slower than than you're planning. But then, but it might work out even, you know, you can work out well because you can slowly build it up by the time summer hits there, you can really hit the ground running.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, the only thing I I like, you know, I added another uh run as we talked about, and I only got 90 minutes a day to like do anything, so that's where I worry because that's a small window to deliver stuff and get back before I have like three hours where I could run around and drop shit off. So we'll have to see how it goes. I'll definitely uh I'll definitely baby it a little bit and not not go gangbusters, but I'm I'm kind of stoked for it.
SPEAKER_03:So yeah, yeah. I remember how excited you got when we were talking about it that night.
SPEAKER_02:Well, it feels more like it it is still kind of gig work, but it still feels like a business. It does, it does because you set your own prices, yeah. Um, and and there's a lot of flexibility with pricing, like how much you want to charge for delivery and like setup and those kind of things.
SPEAKER_03:So yeah, and and not that not that gig work isn't a business. I guess I meant to say it's it feels like more your business. Yes.
SPEAKER_02:Yes, and I don't even know the fee. Oh no, I do know because remember they they you have to pay like two hundred dollars to start.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:So you're invest I think that's big money to start, you know, because that seems like more of an investment. There's not really uh any kind of gig work out there that you're gonna spend two hundred dollars to to get it going.
SPEAKER_03:Right, yeah, and that's why that's why so many people you know flock to gig work because there's no barrier to entry. No barrier to really, yeah, none.
SPEAKER_02:And not that I mean everyone out there could do the 200, but are you gonna do that and like then just fucking not do it? Right. Then you're like, I just burned$200. It's$200 or$100. I can't remember.
SPEAKER_03:Right. It's I think it is$200. But it is. It does it's uh, you know, you have a little skin in the game then, yeah. It it's gonna, you know, should motivate you to uh definitely you know put some time into it.
SPEAKER_02:At least recoup your$200.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, for gig work, I mean your investment's a twenty dollar car inspection.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, yeah. And although in Canada you have a you they pay you have to pay for your background check, but you get it back through work. But uh Rick, I don't have the link, I don't have a link. Just look baby quip qi p baby q u I p dot com. That should get there. I don't there's no referral code or anything like that. Uh at least not now. I'm not active, but um, yeah, I think it's gonna be cool. I'm looking forward to just trying it.
SPEAKER_03:So yeah, yeah, I'm excited to hear how it goes.
SPEAKER_02:Um, so through the Buzz Sprout app, uh, and we got a lot of shit to get to before we even get to news, but um they uh listeners can text in, and I actually had my first one. The the stupidest part of this, uh, and I don't have a name for this person, they're in North Carolina. Uh you can't text back.
SPEAKER_03:Really?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, so you can get like it's like fan mail, but you can't you can't answer it back. You can't respond. Did you just delete something? No, it just went away.
SPEAKER_03:What?
SPEAKER_02:That picture of that it just hold on a minute. Sorry about that. It just like the picture of what he said. I can't I guess it doesn't matter. That's so weird. It's not in the rundown. Remember that picture I just had in there? Maybe I need to. Oh, it's on my rundown. It's totally gone for me. That's fucking hilarious. Sorry, sorry, squirrel. I just went to back and look at it. But anyways, yeah, you can't respond back. So uh he said he was he or she, I don't even know. Doesn't matter, uh, was working on the Londer app. And I don't know if you guys remember Lunder. We actually interviewed the former CEO of that app. It's a laundry cleaning service, um, and it's it's nationwide. And he was, you know, kind of frustrated that he wasn't getting in. Uh I'm just gonna use he because I I just whatever. Uh not getting any orders. But this kind of falls into the same thing as kind of like baby quip. You gotta hustle, you gotta advertise. You gotta get in your Facebook groups and say this is available because what what we have already talked about with these new rideshare apps, getting your name out to the people, the advertising. And I don't know how much London is actually even doing that. So I think that's probably this person's biggest problem is they're just not advertising down there. Right.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:I I would imagine something like that, you would it would be your responsibility to do that kind of marketing because I've never seen any advertising for laundry or so Yeah, and I've seen a there's a there's a few of those out there and I've seen one uh I can't remember what it's called, but yeah um yeah, get out there and get in your Facebook groups. This is not gonna be one of those where you like we said, the low bar of entry. And there doesn't need to be any money involved. I'm not saying run an ad on your interstate or anything, right? But there's a billion, you know, frickin' Facebook groups, just drop it in there. Or I see at least now this group's pretty big. It's got about 30,000 people in my area, and I see at least once a week people asking if there's a laundry service. Really? Yeah. I mean, obviously, there's some people that are more well off that are able to pay for that. But yeah, that's what you're gonna have to do. You're gonna hustle your own work. He did or she did say that they reached out to Launder and they didn't get any response. Now they have been I don't know exactly, Steve would be be able to answer this better, but the original guy we talked to kind of went through a really messy divorce and kind of wasn't able to handle it. So I think his partner bought him out or something, so it's totally different crew running it since the original. Okay. Um, I like the idea. Bubba Sue, no dirty draw draws, draws.
SPEAKER_03:Um no dirty drawers in here.
SPEAKER_02:You know, I don't think about that when I was like, oh, I'll clean laundry, but yeah, what if what you could? I mean, yeah, you know, I would be like, I'll do anything but but your underwear, and I don't know.
SPEAKER_03:Big industrial gloves.
SPEAKER_02:Well, you'd wear gloves regardless.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_02:Um yeah, I think it would be interesting if you did own a laundromat and you could sign up for this app. Like you would that would be a great way to do it if you really didn't have any costs. I mean, it's already your business is already open. Yeah, you already got that. But yeah, I don't know if I'd want to bring that into my house and then just dump it on my floor. I mean, because who knows what they can do.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, you don't know when like bed bugs bugs and shit.
SPEAKER_02:Like, yeah, oh god, what a nightmare that would happen. But yeah, yeah, but anyways, can be nasty for that person from North Carolina. I really appreciate you reaching out. Uh, and I did not ignore you, but I was like, oh, and and now we're on a break. So like I can't even like I wasn't gonna respond in social media because I don't know what this person follows us on. Obviously, listens to the podcast, yeah. So they will hear it on Monday that I I'm following up with it. So yeah, you know, send us an email. You also can send us an email, uh, team at gigeconomy show.com if you want to get a conversation started.
SPEAKER_03:That's yeah, we can answer that back. Isn't that strange? It that is that is strange.
SPEAKER_02:I never I never got an an I actually didn't reach out, but I've seen people ask and they don't really have a good answer of like why we can't respond back. It's probably a cost thing or a privacy thing or something like that. But I guess who knows? I was like, okay, whatever. Yeah, uh all right. Long, long segment. We are 25 minutes in. All right, gig economy in the news, Larry. This I it got deleted, so this is why I only have this on um on the rundown. There was a Reddit post that got deleted.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, yeah, as they as they are wanting to do.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I don't I don't understand. Like I so much of that stuff gets posted and then gets um gets thrown away. And yeah, and uh yeah, so it's kind of blurry, but hopefully you can see a little bit.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, so here I'll read it. So um it's somebody talking with Lyft support, it's a Risehare driver talking with Lyft support, and uh support says, Can you tell me more about what's wrong? And the driver says, Lyft had me take a priority mode that was an hour long and outside of my region for only$30 an hour. This is unacceptable as I'm losing money by being an elite driver. Elite is in quotes. Yeah. And uh the guy says, Thanks, just give me a few seconds and I'll get more information for you. And then they come back and say, uh, ten dollars added to your earnings for being a top driver. Your earnings for this ride are correct, but since you're a value driver, ten dollars has been added to your earnings for this ride. You can find it in the earnings tab in your lift driver app. So they gave him, they threw him, you know, threw him a bone, threw him an extra 10 bucks.
SPEAKER_02:Um when I when I talked, when I talked, I was Mo just put a comment in TikTok and I was like, Yeah, uh, when I was reading the comments, they did say that the now there wasn't a lot of comments, and maybe I don't know. You normally maybe it got pulled down pretty quick, but um that he said he did it three times and was able to get 30 bucks out of them. Really? Yeah, like not in a row, but like yeah, he had said that. So I don't know. I I vaguely have heard that happen before, um, but yeah, you might want to try it. Josh says, Um, why'd you take the ride in the first place? Well, yeah, I mean, we all take dumb rides every once in a while or spill uh butter oil on our seat.
SPEAKER_03:So and yeah, I mean, and and I guess it's uh I guess he said it because he was taking them outside of his region because a lot of people are would be happy with$30 an hour, but if it's taking you where you're having to deadhead back, then then it's like$15 an hour. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Well, the deadhead is the the worst. That's why when I take um, you know, when I look at orders and it's like, oh, it's it's gonna be a dollar a mile, but it's gonna put me in BFE, yeah, and I'm not gonna get nothing on the way back, it's not worth all of a sudden you're doing 50 cents a mile, which is not acceptable. Yeah, no, it yeah, definitely not, definitely not. So um, yeah, just you know, Josh's question, you know, be be aware of that when you take those orders, but also try to suck lift if right as much as you can out of them.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, and Bose work smarter, not harder.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, well, you would think it wouldn't be that hard to figure that out, but again, people have different money goals, you know. Some people are desperate for the to pay their phone bills so they can work the next day. So you just you gotta do what you gotta do. So that is true.
SPEAKER_03:Everybody's story is different.
SPEAKER_02:All right, moving on. A California man owes$2,800 a month on his car. He bought to drive for Uber, and Dave Ramsey says he was working for free. Um so I thought I don't know how val or um what am I trying to say? This stat, I don't know how real it is. I was trying to use a fancy word, didn't happen. Well, as many as one in ten American workers rely on the gig economy for their primary income. One in ten for their primary income? That's pretty pretty wild. Uh this guy, 29 years old from California, called the show and asked if he could should surrender one of his two cars he financed for Uber and Lyft. Um he explained that he first financed the Honda CRV for 60 grand. So then I'm like, he had to have some old equity, right? Like he had to roll some old. I mean, I I guess you could probably get a CRV for 60 grand. Um, but I think it was used. I don't know. So yeah, so he so he so he financed the CRV for 60 grand. Then he could think he thought he could pay it off with the earnings. Uh he initially made about$2,700 per week, but his earnings decreased sharply after Uber changed his eco-friendly program for hybrid vehicles, and then he bought an Acura MDX to qualify for the Uber XL program, putting down$30,000 and taking a loan out of$54. So wait, how do you have$30,000 and you took out a loan of$54? So you're saying that thing was what is that? Five eighty four math time, eighty-four thousand dollars for that Acura. Wow.
SPEAKER_03:Is that what I'm what I'm reading, right? Um uh be math in there. I mean, it didn't what I can tell.
SPEAKER_02:It didn't say he traded the Honda, and he had both of them.
SPEAKER_03:Right.
SPEAKER_02:So now he's giving up driving.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And we're after all that working another job making 22 an hour in California, and the payments are$2,800 a month, and he's behind. And obviously, Dave was dumbfounded that he, you know.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I can hear Dave now. Oh god.
SPEAKER_02:I'm not a huge fan of his, uh, but he ain't dumb with money, and it's all common sense, though. That's the hilarious part. It is, he's based, he's based his whole career on common sense. Um, but said, Yeah, he basically said you need to get rid of them and that you were working for Uber for free. And honestly, some people are working for Uber for free, and they they have a you know,$200 a month car loan. Like you just you gotta treat it as a business, and you really gotta take all that stuff um you know, yeah, you really do take a loan out. Uh Rick says only cost$21,000 financed. Is that what he's saying? Oh, it's$54. No, he's saying it was$54, and he put$30, so then he finance$21. That's what he's saying. I read it the other way. But either way, he's already 60 deep from the Honda, and then add another 21. That's 81K for two cars. Like, yeah. Oh, yeah, Bubba Sue, that's right. She won't make that mistake. She got to get a new car. Uh oh, go on. Go on.
SPEAKER_03:Drop about 80 grand.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, 80 grand. Although I would I would recommend getting a hybrid if you can. You're gonna save bank on gas. So uh Josh. The best part is you took advice from other drivers. Yeah, that's that's a big mistake, depending on who your friends are in the driving the driving field.
SPEAKER_03:So as we sat here and gave everybody advice.
SPEAKER_02:Well, I mean, we're see uh we're seeing professionals. Oh, his CRV only costs 21 grand finance. Yeah, oh yeah. The CRVs are not they're great cars, but you don't have to spend that much money. Like, I mean, they are a little pricier than like a Ford or uh or a Chevy SUV because you know they're a Honda, they're better cars, yeah, even though I have a Chevy, probably gonna last longer, probably gonna last longer. Um that's what she said. My my work partner right now is unchained, he hates the cold, and he has been saying some of the most inappropriate things on the playground. Like, not around kids, but like you just saying that just made me think of him today. A couple of times he's like giving me he's he's 55, he's older than me. He's like, Yeah, give me a high five. That was a good one. I'm like, oh boy, we got 13 school days left. We need to we need to push through. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Oh goodness.
SPEAKER_02:All right, moving on. Another Liv thing for Larry because he loves Lyft so much.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, which we're not happy about. So update to preferred driver. There's a message from Lyft says preferred drivers ending on December 8th. Starting December 8th, preferred driver will no longer be available in your region. I'm not sure which region this post came out of.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I'm not sure either.
SPEAKER_03:Says what this means. Uh, while this means you'll no longer be eligible to get a five percent bonus on every ride, nor additional ride requests for being a preferred driver. We're still dedicated to offering products that improve your driving experience. Stay tuned for new features coming soon. Stay tuned. Yeah, and then don't forget you still get perks with the new Lyft Rewards earn points on every ride, no matter what you drive. Plus, you can redeem those points for cash, car services, and more. Like, how many times do you think since we've been doing this, have have Lyft and Uber changed their reward programs? It's like twice a year.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, they I feel like Uber does too. They, you know, that's what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_03:Lyft and Uber, they change they change them, it seems like constantly. You know, oh no, we're changing it. It's got this new name, it's this now, and that's not good anymore, and we're not doing that, but we got better stuff coming.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, yeah. So was that the preferred one? Was that the one where you got the five percent if you took oh no, that was priority mode. That was priority ride where you got less money, yeah. But you got so supposedly you got more rides rides.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, this one you actually got more money, five percent more on on every ride.
SPEAKER_02:Well, wouldn't you do that for the the other one too? Or no? Well, no, you're right. That was I I feel like there's a number five percent in that other deal, too, wasn't it? Um maybe it was a five percent reduction.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah, you're making less.
SPEAKER_02:Okay, maybe that's where I'm thinking the five, because I I read this and I for in my head I I said, oh, that's the one that Larry did, but it's not the one. But anyways, yeah, no, that was yeah, that was priority. Yeah, I thought it we were getting rid of that, which I thought, oh, that's a good thing to get rid of. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Um yeah, I don't I don't I you know, and this makes you wonder what caused them to to take this away and shut it down.
SPEAKER_02:I don't know, maybe people weren't frickin' even doing it.
SPEAKER_03:It maybe not, and you know, they're like I said it's just in this region, so maybe you know, I don't know. I don't know if it'll be a nationwide thing or not. Yeah, tell you the truth. I don't I don't remember ever being I don't know if we had it here. I don't I don't know that I was ever a preferred driver.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I wonder if it had to do with like the tier and the reward system.
SPEAKER_03:Uh just like yeah, because I was driving less this year. I I you know I hadn't hit any of really any of the tiers. Um so yeah, it probably it probably had to do with you know getting that top tier on lift.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, yeah. Well, I uh I'm not gonna be doing ride here. Although, going back to stories from the road, I did have ride chair on for a while because it was surgeon, and but I never nothing really you know got me excited. It was just I denied a few. I actually denied more eats than I did rides, honestly. Okay. Um, but yeah, I I was like, Yeah, I'll do I wanted to stay busy, and I'm like, I'm just gonna stay on Uber, and if that means there's no Eats, I'll just do a ride real quick. But I never took one, so yeah, all right. Nothing exciting. Babasu, new CRV start over 30. Yeah, you don't want to buy a new one. God knows.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, about a two-year-old one.
SPEAKER_02:And the reason I bought mine new is because of the the$7,500 tax credit. Other than that, I would definitely uh not buy new. Uh, how's Spark been for you? Um, it's been okay. I haven't really done anything through this um holiday season. Uh I will be once I'm on break, even though I'm done not working, you know I'm gonna do gig work. I'm not gonna sit around for two weeks, I'll go insane. Um, so I will definitely do in Spark, but um when I've been doing it, I did a couple. Um I had I don't know, I had$80 worth of work from the last week during the holiday break. So I did do some Spark along with the Eats, and seems to be okay. I know a lot of people are complaining about it. I know um Mo was complaining about it too, but she does it through Uber. Um Uber Eats. They uh she I don't know if they don't have it up in their area or she I don't know. There's some story that she can't get signed on up there, but um they do a lot of Uber Eats deliveries and she had talked to them and they had turned it off the deliveries because they couldn't keep up with it. Oh, distorted. Oh wow, yeah. So she she had to. I know she I know she does. She's she was on TikTok for a while, but we need to get to a thousand, damn it, so we can stream the whole thing.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah, please, please, please.
SPEAKER_02:Even if you don't watch the videos, just go just follow us. Yeah, just follow us on TikTok. That's all we're asking. So uh I know I would love Mo over here. I she is so she does not come. I mean, she has a YouTube channel, she does not come over to the dark side. She always she loves uh she loves TikTok, which I kind of do too, but yeah, um but anyways, she had said that it was very slow for her during Thanksgiving that week because they were just so overwhelmed they had to shut periodically shut it off. So that sucks.
SPEAKER_03:No, no doubt.
SPEAKER_02:All right, moving on. I had get gotten this. Uh, we detected unusual activity with your recent identity verification. So basically, what happened it well, no, we've seen the pictures where people would do the dumbest shit on the verification and get verified, right?
SPEAKER_03:Right.
SPEAKER_02:So so maybe so what happened? I somehow had turned my head and it and it and and it was all jacked up like like that somehow, like blurry. You're like, oh, I did that. And uh, and I was like, I just redid it and it was fine, but I got an email about it. So I'm like, oh, maybe they're maybe they're uh tightening it down a little bit, but yeah, I I was like, okay.
SPEAKER_03:I mean Yeah, because this warning says you're not you didn't use the same device, right?
SPEAKER_02:Well, no. Oh, I wonder what okay, this is me with reading. Um, I thought it was the weird one. So I do have my Android phone and I do sometimes switch back and forth depending on what's going on. Like I'll go out with it on my iPhone, and then if Spark gets busy, I'll switch to my Android phone.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, well, Josh said he uses two phones and they send him that all the time.
SPEAKER_02:Okay, maybe that's when I thought it was I thought it was the jacked up picture I took, but yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:It says uh says we require uh drivers to submit identity identity verification selfies using the same device for completing selfies and taking trip. We observed you're not meeting these requirements. Uh so it's probably you know it's one of those warning. Hey, Steve, uh one of those warnings we get, like, you know, oh, have you been speeding? I'd get that one sometimes.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I mean, but I've flip-flopped quite a bit and I've never gotten that. So I just assumed it was the weird ass picture.
SPEAKER_03:But yeah, maybe I would too, especially if you've been using it, because you've been using two phones for how long now?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, some days I'm out with one, and and what I was saying is that I would get like Walmart would get super fucking busy, or the other one, I'd basically run both on one phone, and then I'm like, all right, one of these is annoying the shit out of me. I need to get it on another phone, and then I would just flop over to the Android phone. But um, yeah, for sure. Hey Steve. Nice to see you. Um, yeah, I don't know how you do it without two phones, honestly. If it gets busy at all, it's just so fucking uh uh overwhelming. So all right, moving forward, lots of pictures, lots of uh not a lot of articles tonight. We're just it was picture heavy. So uh this was from Faith.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, so um uh this is was this Uber Eats though or ride?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I think it was Eats.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, I didn't think it was rides.
SPEAKER_02:She doesn't do rides, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:I know she doesn't do rides, so that's why I thought uh for sure it had to be eats. And I thought there was something on here that said something about deliveries, but anyway, she got this notification says unable to go online. Um, you know, it's it's the uh same kind of warning screen you get when it when you have to take your picture, kind of yeah. But this one says uh check next available times to deliver in this area. Please reserve a time in the planner, and then it's got a button that says choose times. So uh this is kind of like DoorDash, yeah, where you have to choose a time, but never heard of this before on Uber Eats. And I don't know when we're seeing that anywhere.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, and I don't know if this is because we I gave Faith a hard time. I was like, Oh, welcome to New York. Because I know New York a lot of times they have to schedule and stuff, and I think that's I mean, that's the only one I know of. I don't think California ha has that, and I think that's just New York, like not New York. State, but like New York City, yeah. You have to do that because whatever, because of the minimum wage law and stuff. Like, and that's what face comments like she goes, yeah, but I'm not getting paid the you know the minimum wage. And so uh that's weird. I never heard any follow-up from her again. I sometimes in and out of that group, um our telegram group, if that went away or if whatever. Did you hear anything or not?
SPEAKER_03:No, I hadn't. Um uh Rick just said that some areas of Texas.
SPEAKER_02:Oh wow, that's yeah, I don't like that. I don't like that either.
SPEAKER_03:Um not that I do any Uber Eats, but you know, I want to be able to, I want to have the option.
SPEAKER_02:Are they are they just don't have enough volume? Is I mean, is or is this this law based? Drivers, I probably too many drivers probably I don't know.
SPEAKER_03:I I you would think the uh company wouldn't care.
SPEAKER_02:I guess yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like you would think, and that's why I wonder is this law-based? Is this a thing that the the government's enforcing so Uber's doing? Because why wouldn't they care if there's 100,000 drivers on for like a city of 10?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, so they don't for ride share, then you know they don't care if there's because then they want that because they want people to be picked up as soon as possible. Well, and the same thing with food, we want it to be picked up as soon as possible. So it's no it it doesn't cost Uber anymore to have you know, whether they have 10,000 drivers or 100,000 drivers out there, you know, they much rather have the hundred thousand, but yeah, uh yeah. Bubba Sioux said it's a new thing with Uber they're rolling out, but I'd be interested if I could find out why I'll try to research that and find out why.
SPEAKER_02:Because I'd be I'd be frustrated, especially. Can you imagine I go out for that bonus?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, and you gotta get online from two a.m. gasket. Oh, you you're talking about clip of the week. Yeah, that would be a bunch of f-bombs.
SPEAKER_02:You can sign up from 2 a.m. to 4 a.m. there it's busy then. Oh, yeah, no, I'd probably throw my phone across the car and be like, I'm done. Fuck them. God, that's horrible.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, that would not be good. No, uh, yeah, and I mean, um I I blame my lack of doing much food delivery on the fact that I can you know, DoorDash, I can only get on certain times, but that's not the real reason.
SPEAKER_02:Well, lately DoorDash lets me yeah, DoorDash lets me on.
SPEAKER_03:Well, mine doesn't all the time anymore. It did there for a while, but then the last few times, uh probably three or four times, I've tried you know go on there. It's only during the bus only during the lunch hours or meal times.
SPEAKER_02:I don't know. The last couple times I've been able to put any time I want, because you still have to put an end time. And uh but then I'm on and I don't barely get any orders. Like it's I mean, honestly, in my area, Uber Eats is busier. And if for me, if I'm on both apps. Now, again, I'm you know got a 14% acceptance rate on DoorDash, and maybe that's affecting me somehow.
SPEAKER_03:I don't think it should be uh what's your acceptance rate on Uber Eats? Do you know? Have any idea?
SPEAKER_02:Um, probably a hundred. No, I'm just kidding. Man, yeah. Yeah, let's see. I don't know, does it tell you? Um I don't know.
SPEAKER_03:I don't know if it breaks it down.
SPEAKER_02:Um standard mode.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I like that. Steve said uh nothing Uber does is law-based.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, yeah, sure it is.
SPEAKER_03:Sure it is. It it might be uh against the law, but oh, I have an eight eight percent acceptance rate. 8% acceptance rate on Uber Eats.
SPEAKER_02:Honestly, bro, I got 9% cancellation. Holy shit. I don't cancel that many rides or deliveries.
SPEAKER_03:Josh said he gets junk on Uber Eats too.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I'm right there with you, Josh. 99% satisfaction rate, 94%. You see that? 99%, you fuckers that tiled me with a bag. Uh 94% on time, shopping, 100% fulfillment rate, 100% order accuracy. I know you're getting excited. 100% replacement rate, and a 94% found rate. So those are decent. But 9% cancellation, they must ding you a lot harder on a cancellation. So maybe Jay's 8% is great. Hey, I'll get done. You know how they give you the little recap? You denied 64 and you took three. Yeah. Like, all right. Well, I mean, if I'm doing spark, I'm not gonna take something shitty and lose a spark order. You know, I'm gonna, it's gotta be decent before I'm gonna like turn spark off and go do an Uber Eats.
SPEAKER_03:So yeah, yeah. If they want if they want you, man, they gotta up their game.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, bid for service, bid for service.
SPEAKER_03:That's right. Gotta up their game, gotta have some wet lips, right? Wow. That's what she said. Oh my gosh. Oh, so Josh said Grubhub. Josh, I used to I always did Grubhub instead of DoorDash, but I I I I was wasn't on there for a while and I can't get back into my either.
SPEAKER_02:They like deactivated, they didn't even send an email. I tried to get in. Username, password doesn't work, and I'm like, I I don't have to reset it, and they have been no help. I I did not have enough energy to uh yeah fight with them to to try to get it back or reapply or anything. So yeah, same here. Uh all right, moving on. Another picture. This this I it doesn't shock me, but the 90% of robo taxis have two or less passengers, and we've shit on Elon. Didn't he make the two-seater?
SPEAKER_03:Yes, yes. His robo taxis are two seaters.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, so he knows what he's doing. He's obviously done the statistics. Um, so it says five percent have zero passengers.
SPEAKER_03:What does that even mean? How can he have a row a trip with no passenger? I mean, well, I guess you're carrying a an item or something, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:I mean, they had to add it up to a hundred, so yeah. Uh 71% have one passenger, 15% have two, six percent have three, and uh three percent have four passengers. So I guess he's not a crackhead. Um, because why build a bigger car that costs more money that uses more electricity if you don't need it? Yeah, I mean keep a couple big ones around.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. I I I uh I'd like to do like my research on mine and like go back through a week or something on my dash cam and and and see how you know I stacked up here. I think I think mine would skew higher.
SPEAKER_02:I think it would skew higher because you are in a college town. Yeah, and that's a dial in.
SPEAKER_03:They do.
SPEAKER_02:Um I think a non-college town, I think it's probably the same statistics. I think there are a lot of things. I mean, especially when I did it during the day, it was ones.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah. A lot of them during the day are ones or two. But yeah, you don't even have a lot of three and fours during the day.
SPEAKER_02:Um back to a thing. Um oh, he was talking to Sue. I thought I thought he said so. So you know I hate metrics, but I feel 15%. You feel that's fair? You I don't know, it seems like 15 they would be emailing your ass. Um that's a lot. But I and I definitely have canceled. I mean, I sure I definitely have. If something else, if I happen to have Spark on, something else comes better comes up. And I actually did drop one. Uh it was an add-on this last go-around, but it was at the fucking mall during the holiday weekend in a round. Absolutely not.
SPEAKER_03:Not a chance.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I figured it out and I was like, nope, cancel. I don't want this at all.
SPEAKER_03:Not going anywhere near the mall on Black Friday. Nope.
SPEAKER_02:Um, I bet you can find back to the statistics of passengers. I bet you can find that online. What I mean, Uber's probably posted that somewhere uh on that. But Bubba Su. Sorry, I'm going, I I missed a bunch of comments, I apologize. Also, new must be under 15% cancellation rate. Okay, that's what I'm saying. I think 15's really high. Um yeah, they don't really matter. It's just nice to look at it and go, oh, okay. Like, especially the acceptance rate. I thought it was gonna be higher than that. I think that I think Uber Eats is lower than DoorDash was surprising. Maybe. Um, all right, here we go.
SPEAKER_01:Waymo in the news.
SPEAKER_02:Alright, we had two of them to pick from, but um, I don't know. I kind of want to do this one first. Uh, this was sent in by Faith. I labeled it as Waymo on crack. Uh basically the Waymo makes a left turn while they're making a felony traffic stop.
SPEAKER_03:Uh yeah, like this dude is on the ground with his hands on his head, the police are behind their cars.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. And I'll give my my comment after we watch it. Waymo. Oh my god. Oh my god. What the fuck is that Waymo doing? Okay, we don't need to last seven seconds, but um yeah, for the audio listeners, they were doing a felony stop. Now, for the audio listeners, this is where I don't think Waymo did anything wrong. So they're at an intersection. The cops, you're the Waymo's gonna turn left. So picture yourself turning left, the Waymo. The cops are across the street at the other side of the intersection, and that dude's like on the corner, like on the 90. There was no one blocking any cars from going straight. The Waymo's like, oh, I can't go straight. I'm gonna turn left. There was nothing that we could see in the video that prevented that Waymo from stopping. I think it was pulling over, I think it was picking up somebody. Maybe it was picking up the guy on the ground.
SPEAKER_03:He's getting ready to jump in that Waymo and take off, man.
SPEAKER_02:Um, so yeah, I really don't think the Waymo did anything wrong. They were just like, oh, they're Waymo, but like what was preventing it? There was no cop, there was no barrier.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I don't, I don't I don't know how you would program that out, but like me in my car, if that's going on right there, I'm not turning there. You know, I'm not gonna I'm going right. I'm going right, I'm gonna do a U-turn. Yeah, I'm going back the other way. Because you know cops are out, guns drawn, you never know when the shit's gonna start flying. Oh no, and you don't want to be in the middle of that.
SPEAKER_02:No, but I don't think the computer can be like, oh, those pistols are out.
SPEAKER_03:We should I I mean I think eventually they'll get be able to be smart enough to run it because you know you see the blue lights, um, yeah, I'm that that would take some unique um programming, I guess, to be able to figure out, yeah, this dude's on the ground with his head's on his or his hands.
SPEAKER_02:And this is where we talk about a thousand times. This is where the common sense of like a person would be able to evaluate that and pretty quick of time, like yeah, it wouldn't take long at all. Because you, as as a driver, you're gonna avoid the problems, you're gonna go the other way. I would fucking never turn left. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:You turn turning right, one or the other. Yeah, so I'm bait, I'm sure you know, to be honest, probably pulling over and watching it.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, videotaping, right? Like that guy did. Um, I I'm shitting on on Waymo for not being able to figure that out, but also it's just basing it on you know the basics of well, there's no barrier and I need to go left. I'm I can't go straight, I'm gonna go left. Because that maybe that's the quickest GPS to get to his stop instead of going right. So the computer's like, okay, we're gonna go left. Yeah, it's a computer.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, and like I said, yeah, he must have been stopping to to either pick somebody up or something because he may he made the turn and then it then it just started like creeping along.
SPEAKER_02:Unless it uh caught the red and blue and then decided to pull over. Yeah, but I don't know why, yeah, it didn't catch it straight ahead.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I don't know why it would do it when it made the turn. Uh sure it's already passed it then.
SPEAKER_02:I mean, it's good for these people to record this because then Way Waymo probably I don't know if Waymo would even know that happened if if it didn't get it. Yeah, probably not. I don't think they would. They it would have just moved on. And I mean, I'm sure they have some things that trigger it that they're like, okay, we need to go back and look at this, but they're not reviewing all this fucking footage. It's gotta be AI or something that's that's that's looking at it. But I don't know. So I'm defending I'm defending the computer system because I don't know how it would process that, but Waymo needs to figure that out.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. And they will. They will for sure.
SPEAKER_02:Uh Larry, this TikTok. Let's see, we got 55 minutes. Um I don't remember. Is this the FedEx one? Uh yeah. Okay, I didn't watch this one, so okay, yeah. It's not much, it's just minute 38, shit. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:So it's this delivery driver backs into the homeowner's driveway.
SPEAKER_02:Sorry, preface it. I jumped a gun. Oh, you can't hear me. Shit. Hold on a minute.
unknown:Damn.
SPEAKER_02:This happened last time, remember? When I quit when I quick stopped it.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, this happened last time.
SPEAKER_02:Okay, go ahead and explain it.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, so it's just uh they get into a little dispute. Apparently, this guy doesn't like people backing into his gravel driveway and he spent$12,000 to get it fixed. And so yeah. Jeez. Okay, here we go.
SPEAKER_00:This delivery driver backs into the homeowner's driveway, despite the homeowner's explicit note to delivery personnel not to back into their driveway. Let's see what happened.
SPEAKER_04:If you don't mind, look at your notes. I bet it says something about not backing down our driveway. Almost guaranteed it. If you look in there, I'll watch that on everything. It's not just specifically you, it's every driver's doing it, and it's messing up our driveway because you're in our yard right now. You know, we just have to pay twelve thousand dollars to have all the fixed stuff. Oh, I'm saying, hey, there's nothing to get arguments with me. I'm just telling you what's going on. I'm not getting smart with you, I'm telling you what's going on. Just because you don't want to do your job right, I don't want to do my job right. You bring your note, you are you supposed to drive on people's yards? Are you hey and bring it over here and doesn't go there? Just believe you're getting told on, sir. Have a good day. Have a good day, sir. Have a good day, sir.
SPEAKER_00:According to you.
SPEAKER_02:Hold on, still muted for some reason. You're still muted. I don't know why. That's so weird.
SPEAKER_03:Uh there you go. Yeah, there we go. So for the audio listeners, yeah, this uh FedEx van backed up into this uh it's like a circle gravel driveway, and the guy was standing there, not happy about them. He's like, You're in my yard. I mean, his tire was like barely in his grasp. It's not like he had a nice lawn.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, he lives in the fucking country, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:They and he was just yeah, being a little outrageous about it. And uh so then then the guy instead of taking the package over to the guy, he takes it over to the front porch. The guy's like, No, it comes over here, and he's like, Nope.
SPEAKER_02:Taking it over here. Um, Josh, you say I don't blame the guy. Which which guy, the driver or the customer? Um I'm on I'm on both sides. I love that the driver, like he tried to be cordial. Yeah, and when the guy said, You it's not my fault, you don't want to do your job. That will trigger, I don't care who you are. Yeah, I wouldn't have delivered it. I would have put it back in the truck and marked as undeliverable. Yeah, I'm that much of a prick.
SPEAKER_03:Um, and then I you know, I don't understand. He he you could tell he was um he was gonna be difficult. You could just tell, you could tell from the sound of his voice. I he's like, I'm just telling you what's going on, you know. I'm just telling you what's going on. And uh, but but yeah, when he pushed the point there, you don't want to do your job. That's that was that was way over the line.
SPEAKER_02:I don't understand why Josh would be on like what are you on the customer side because he drove on like it's a fucking gravel driveway. Like, I mean he is not driving a a heavy ass vehicle. Like the Amazon electric ones are heavy because they're all battery. I get that, but it's just a small little FedEx fucking van, basically. Um, I don't know. I I I don't know why the guys, I mean, you drive your own vehicles on the the grass.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I don't I don't understand that what why they don't want them backing up. What's the difference between backing up your driveway or pulling in the driveway?
SPEAKER_02:I don't think it's backing up. I think it's in general being on the driveway. You don't yeah, you don't want to pull forward like Rick said, you'd have to back out because it didn't look like there was much room. Then he would be driving on the on the grass to turn it off.
SPEAKER_03:I mean, it's a pretty big yard. I'm not I'm not I'm not walking from the main road.
SPEAKER_02:You know what though? Fucking a lot of um No, no, he wasn't all on his lawn? Do you want to watch Bro? Come on. Come on.
SPEAKER_00:This delivery driver backs into the homeowner's driveway, despite the homeowner's explicit note to delivery personnel not to back into their driveway. Let's see what happened.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, we we just married we just watched that again. Did you see that, Bubba Sue? It was like the back wheel and maybe a little bit of the front. He wasn't all over it.
SPEAKER_03:It's not like it's a pristine lawn.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I mean I'm a lawn guy, but he's right in the grass. Are you guys watching the same video? Are you gaslighting me? Is this a troll? It's working. Oh my god. I'm gonna reach through this microphone and smack you both. Oh my goodness. Yeah, so anyways, um, yeah, I don't I mean, I could see it for both of them, honestly. He was giving the guy shit. It probably wasn't his notes. Um I mean, he would know if he called FedEx and complained, right? Like the the customer would. It's not like he's thinking it's Amazon too. You're serious? Someone block her. I'm just kidding. Um, but anyways, yeah. I I don't know. I think that was a little much for everything. My point is if you why can't would you rather have them drop it at the end of the road? Because I'm not walking up there. I'm not walking up that long driveway and doing that. So uh I don't always park in customer driveways. Well, I don't either, but if it's long, I'm I'm driving up that 100 out of 100 times. Even if the notes say I've driven flex that the notes have said don't drive up in the driveway. No, I'm driving up. Okay, write me up. Okay, call my boss. Call my Bubba Sue. Oh my goodness. She's got it for you tonight. Wow. On that note, we're over time. Uh that wasn't long. Yeah, that's what your wife says. Um whoops. Wait in the dude. All right. Uh we god, we have a shit ton we didn't get through. Um, but yeah, we'll do this some of this on Patreon. Uh Um go to patreon.com slash the GiggyCon podcast if you want to uh she's laughing up. If you wanna uh relive this again and got a bunch of other stuff to talk about Waymo ordered to stop charging overnight. Uh oh, and we the the clo we'll do that one next week. Um that one's a good one. I don't wanna I want the regular audiences. Well, I mean, not that we give the shit to the Patreon people. Right. Larry and I joke about that, but it's not true. All right, 8 10 p.m., seven minutes. Uh yeah, we got a couple more Wednesdays, and then we're gonna take a couple weeks off from Christmas. I know we never work, don't we? We never work. But uh I Larry's off for Christmas break, too, so we both have the same amount of time. Two weeks off. Two weeks off. Uh full weeks off. That's gonna be wild. So you can expect us running our miles on Telegram for sure. Yes. So we can't go we can't go two weeks without talking for an hour straight. So nope, not at all. All right. Uh as always, don't put up with anyone's bullshit.
SPEAKER_03:We'll see you on the road. All right. Have a good night. Hey, good night. Come join us on uh Patreon.
SPEAKER_02:Patreon.
SPEAKER_03:Oh my god. They had to bend trolling. Like, what are you talking about? That's car's like two inches in the grass. They had to be trolling me.
SPEAKER_02:And I I love I am very adamant on not driving on people's lawns if it's a nice lawn. But if it yeah, if it's shitty and I can't turn around safely, I'm driving on the lawn. I'm backing up on the lawn for sure. Um, but yeah. But then she said, Josh said F you, Bubasu. Um, but I I don't know if she was, I don't know, they were talking shit to each other. I don't know. I was dying.
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