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Lyft’s $19M Settlement, $1K Uber Ride, Waymo Pulled Over & Amazon Driver Chaos | Ep 271
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We trade Halloween jokes for real talk on gig work: why community intel beats guesswork, how a $19.4M Lyft settlement signals policy shifts, and what happens when driverless cars miss school bus laws. We unpack delivery safety, surge traps, and SNAP-to-doorstep trade-offs with practical, calm advice.
Ep 271 News
• Amazon Flex mileage, block pay, and EV versus gas trade-offs
• Lyft’s $19.4m settlement and the ABC test implications
• Pet safety at deliveries and de‑escalation norms
• $740 Uber surge after major events and rider/driver tactics
• SNAP-enabled ALDI orders on Uber Eats and pricing parity concerns
• Waymo passing a school bus stop-arm and accountability gaps
• Police stopping an empty Waymo and who gets the ticket
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Hello, hello. Welcome to the Gig Economy Podcast and Happy Halloween. It's it's it's spooky season, bitches. Oh, yes it is. Uh episode 271. Uh actually part of this title is from last week's because we never talked about it. Lift uh has a night team.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah. Your your mic sounds off. We just talked about this and now echoey. No, it sounds echoey.
SPEAKER_04:God dang it. Oh, I just I hear it too. What am I is it because you have your volume up on your phone?
SPEAKER_05:No, it's turned all the way down.
SPEAKER_04:Are you sure?
SPEAKER_05:Uh let me let me double check. Yeah, I think so.
SPEAKER_04:I'm good. Okay. Oh, now it's fixed. Yeah, it was I think it was your phone. Okay. Yeah, because maybe it was. Yeah, I I could hear it too.
SPEAKER_06:If it was up, it was just like it was like one notch up.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, I know. It'll mess everything up. Anyways.
SPEAKER_06:All right, that's all my fault.
SPEAKER_04:No, no, but thanks for stop or calling me out, or you know, whatever. Call me out. You called yourself out. List$19 million settlement, a 1k Uber ride, Waymo pulled over in Amazon Driver Chaos. You see that little QR code in the middle if you're watching or in the corner. Uh, if you want to you uh scan that, that'll get you the audio podcast. I think it's cool. StreamYard has done that. So uh just snap up, or you don't actually snap a picture, but you you know how QR codes work. If you don't know how QR codes work, you might just have trouble. I mean, you got on here, so you gotta know how QR codes work for sure. But yeah, uh it's very cool. This uh yeah, download the show. It brings you right to the Buzz Buzz Sprout website where we uh host the show. So uh go to gingeconomy show.com for everything. Uh, want to make mention our Patreon members, uh, that's Samson from Grand Rapids, Bud Dickman from North Carolina, Omar from Detroit, Delivery Cast from Michigan, Frank from Philly, Tom from Volo, Illinois, Jim from Connecticut, Miguel from GR, Linda from Tampa, Jerry, Gillette from Kentucky, Faith from Las Vegas, Metal Kickass from Louisiana, and Anna, our new supporter. Uh, the uh I don't know what tier that's called, but doesn't matter. Uh, we don't know where Anna's from. We would like to know. We would love to let us know. We would love to know. You don't have to. We just it's always good to just see where people are from and uh really appreciate the sport a lot. That really means a lot to us. Uh speaking of that, Patreon tonight. We're trying something different. If you are a part of Patreon, doesn't matter which tier 3, 7, or 15. I have sent a link earlier today that will connect you to the StreamYard and you can come in live with us. It's not an interview or anything, it's just like you can connect with us and we can talk about it. Shoot the breeze.
SPEAKER_06:Shoot the breeze. Ask us questions if you want.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, sometimes Larry and I go hard into to gigwork talk, and sometimes it's we're getting weeds about everything else. It's random shit. So we'd love to have uh you on. So if you are part of the Patreon, go ahead and uh click that link at 8 10 p.m. Uh the stream yard link, and then you can come talk with us. Uh Larry, we have no clip of the week. I'm just gonna get right in front of it. I messaged Faith today, and apparently she's on vacation.
SPEAKER_06:She's on vacation, she's on like a two-week vacation. She said she was signing out and uh putting us on mute, but she still has has messaged a few times in the chat group. But yeah, she was like, You're on your own, not no message of the week for me. You if you're gonna do it, you have to do it yourself.
SPEAKER_04:So okay, well, yeah, I uh did not see that. And yeah, even if you put it on mute, when you you still will get um like if you go into the app, you'll still see the message, you just don't get notified. Although she right, she said it she said she was on mute, but boy, she picked up my all the group chat was on mute. I I messaged her privately, so yeah. Well, we'll blame her. But anyways, Larry, what is the telegram group? What are we even talking about?
SPEAKER_06:So, yeah, this telegram group, it's an app that we use to communicate with. It's like a texting app, but you can also do video messages or voice messages, which is really nice when you're out on the road. Sometimes you don't want to be texting and driving, but it's easy to just push the button and do a voice message. Uh, you can talk with gig workers all over the country, uh, talk with people who are you know have a have a uh common reference point um as far as gig work. They've been doing the same apps probably that you've been doing. We talk about you know any new apps that are coming that we may not know about. We talk about what apps are popping right now and what which ones are not doing so well. Um, it's good just to have some friends to talk to. And you can meet some really good people and and make some friendships on here. It's how I started out. And uh yeah, so join us on the telegram group. Say hi, let us know where you're from, what market you do you're in, and what gigs you do.
SPEAKER_04:Uh, if you are on TikTok, uh the full show is on YouTube if you want to get the full experience. I was gonna play uh Bubba Sue's voice message. Yeah, I I her accent is just I love it. You know what I mean? Like, I'm sure we to her, but like she started sending voice messages, and I'm like, I kind of love it. I'm so glad that uh that she's doing that, but she hasn't send one in a while. I'm like scanning up real quick, and I haven't haven't seen orange in the chat for some reason. I don't know. We do we get to pick our colors or does it assign it?
SPEAKER_06:I don't I've never chosen a color.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, because hers is orange, and like I can really go through and uh what accent? Oh my gosh, Baba Sue. Sign up for Patreon. You come on tonight and we can hear it live.
SPEAKER_06:Uh yeah, that'd be awesome. That'd be cool. Anyways, it is cool though to put a voice to an aunt because you know, you you have in your mind, your mind creates what you think this person is gonna sound like or look like, and then when you see them or you hear them, a lot of times it's like totally different. Sometimes it's pretty close, but sometimes it's like, oh yeah, that's just not even close to what I was thinking they were gonna sound like or look like.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, in a crowd of like 10,000 people talking. If she if we were in like Spain and she was talking and be like, fucking Bubba Sue is right there. Like I'd I know who that is. She said she says she doesn't oh oh man. You never think you do where you live, but you come you come and uh over by us and would be you'd stick out like a sore thumb. It's not a bad thing at all.
SPEAKER_06:No, no, it's just different. It's just different, yeah. Yeah, if we were down here and you know, obviously in the south, uh, you know, people would would pick up on a little bit, but you know, same way I've been up north I've been up, I've been in New Jersey quite a bit over in in my life, and yeah, they think I talk like you know, uh a backwoods hick.
SPEAKER_04:So well, I mean I hear the little bit of Twang Southern with you for sure. Yeah. Um, but yeah, no, it was just kind of funny. Yeah. You Josh said he met with Bubba so yesterday. She need oh she's rich.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, she's rolling.
SPEAKER_04:Well, anyways, so that's the telegram group. Sorry, we got off pace uh tonight. You know, it's gonna be a like a 20-minute show because we got no news.
SPEAKER_06:That's all right. We can we can Larry.
SPEAKER_04:I go stories from the road. Literally, I didn't work. I've been sick.
SPEAKER_06:Um yeah, Jason's been sick, so everybody everybody uh wish Jason uh you know that he gets better soon. He's still under the influence or under the influence, still under the still under the weather. That was a Freudian slip.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, no, it's water and uh fanta orange today, no influence.
SPEAKER_06:So yeah, Jason didn't was sick, so he didn't work, and and uh my son was in from St. Louis last week. That's right. So I was I spent time with him, so I did not work. Yeah, did you guys have fun? We had a great time. Yeah, it's always always enjoy when he comes in. You know, he tried to spread his time. He he you know, he stay he usually stays with us uh in this room here, the the bonus room where I record at. As as y'all saw last week when he was sitting on the couch and all of a sudden he appeared in the background, him and Garfield. Um, but you know, he spends times with his mom, and then you know, he's got a good friend uh here, and so he'll spend time with him as well. Um but yeah, we got to watch you know two Buccaneer games together, which is great. You know, the second one didn't obviously end up quite like we hoped it would, but you know, we end up putting up a decent fight and and uh making it close there at the end anyway.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, without Evans, I think y'all are gonna struggle. I mean, it's you you would think tough. Well, you would think like, oh, one person doesn't make a team, but look at the Bengals, they got the number one receiver pretty much, uh Jamar Chase, and they got this quarterback that can't get him the ball, you know what I mean.
SPEAKER_06:So exactly. So yeah, we had a good time. We played uh, you know, he he always brings his PS5. We play some games. Um, so yeah, it's great, great to visit with him. Cool.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, Bubba Sue, thanks. I'm feeling uh um quite a bit better, but yeah, I was I haven't had like a fever in so long. Like since I started driving bus, I haven't gotten sick. That is my first official call in. Like, I've taken sick days because I want to go do something, but I've never called in for sick, and I was just like, I I don't think I can do it. 102 fever. I'm like, Yeah, yeah, you don't need to be around people when you're running 102. No, no, no. That was that was way too hot. So um, so yeah, I didn't really have anything. Um, yeah, I've been getting quite a few field trips for Granville, so I'm just kind of yeah.
SPEAKER_06:Every time I talk to you, you're going somewhere, so yeah.
SPEAKER_04:I mean, if if I can do a lot of my extra earning with Grandville, I mean, I'm not paying for gas, I'm just sitting on my booty. Um, I'm gonna try to do that. But I am I am Jones into do some Spark, that's for sure. But I had worked like 23 days in a row before I got sick, and I was like, maybe that was part of it too.
SPEAKER_06:Like it might be part of it.
SPEAKER_04:I mean, I let's say work. I mean, I'm not working 12 hour days, but like I would work, you know, on Saturday, I would do six hours of gig work, and then I would have a field trip, and then I would back to work on Monday and stuff.
SPEAKER_06:So yeah, yeah, you gotta take a break sometimes.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, don't yeah. My you my wife says the same thing, so all right. Uh, gig economy in the news. Not much happening, a few videos here and there and a few articles, but uh Larry.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, so this first one is a uh um it's a you know a funny video, uh TikTok video, and it's uh kind of representing how DoorDash works and how how some of the drivers can just be on top of things, being efficient, right?
SPEAKER_04:Yep, 18 seconds. DoorDash order. DoorDash order for Jeff.
SPEAKER_07:All right, I'll be ready in like 10 minutes.
SPEAKER_02:Is the DoorDash order for Jeff ready yet?
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, so for the audio listeners, yeah, this is just just kind of these people that do, I guess, you know, skit kind of skit videos. And it shows a guy accepting a DoorDash order in the restaurant saying, you know, it's gonna be ready about 10 minutes, and turns around, and there's a person there's supposed she's got a sign around her neck says DoorDash. So she's representing the dasher and she's like, Is it is the order for Jeff ready yet? And I'm sure that happens to them sometimes because I know I've gotten there and they're like, We didn't we haven't even gotten the order yet, and it'll come in as I, you know, I they've had I've seen them come in like as I was in the restaurant.
SPEAKER_04:I know I feel it's kind of a scam when they're like, Well, we won't send you until it's ready. I feel like the second they get it, they ship it to somebody.
SPEAKER_06:They're it seem they seem to do better than they used to. Yeah. Uh I used to like the first COVID and and the you know, year or two after that, man, there's so many times you get there and you're like waiting, you know, 10, 15 minutes. And now most of the time when I get there, unless I'm just happening to be right next to the restaurant, there it seems they're pretty good about getting it.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, I mean it's more a little tongue-in-cheek. I'm sure they are working on it. Um, when you what is your limit as far as like if you get there? I know you don't do a ton of food delivery, but just right.
SPEAKER_06:And it it depends on how busy it is that day, too. If it's dead slow, I might, you know, I might wait. I'm probably gonna wait a little bit longer where things are popping, and you know, it's a busy day with everything else going on, and I just happen to grab this one to fill time. Yeah, I'm I'm not waiting long.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, there is a lot of variables. It's like how your attitude is that day. Sure. Yeah, like if you had a bad day at your other job and you're just like, I am not dealing with this shit tonight, you know.
SPEAKER_06:I mean, it's the last thing I'm I'm waiting on. I am not doing it. Yeah, just sit in my car and not do anything for 15 minutes instead of instead of waiting.
SPEAKER_04:You know, and I think, and I don't know if it's because people like uh multi-app or stuff, but like I I mean I will multi-app, but it's very rare that I'll get a double that are going that way if I'm doing like different apps, obviously. But I go right to the restaurant, like I don't dick around, and I think Yeah, no, that same way. I I head right there because if I know that I'm only gonna do this order, why would I want to wait you know any longer screwing around? Not that you're screwing around, but like taking your time.
SPEAKER_06:Why not be there in case you know I want to I want to be there as soon as it's ready to go so I can flip it if I can go, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:So exactly. Well, you know what I would I don't see a lot of on on social media and TikTok, and you know, this is a good idea. I want to see the back end of these apps, so I really like that. I he's like, oh, I didn't even know they like added the time and stuff like that. I would love to see a creator have a series of like you know, because you know they all got DoorDash, tablets, Grubhub. I mean, they they're running them all. It would be really cool to see the back or like the the insta. Yeah, somebody on the other side of it. Yeah, I don't know.
SPEAKER_06:But I guess if they're actually working, then they they probably don't have time.
SPEAKER_04:Well, you know, I mean it's slow when you get a DoorDash order, you just create some content and stuff like that.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah. Yeah, honey, why'd you get fired? Well, I was trying to make some TikTok.
SPEAKER_04:Well, I would hope it would they would have permission from you know the business owner, but sure. Um I always like to uh see the the inside of stuff like when uh one of the podcasters I listed when he talks about radio, like the inside of radio, like how things work. I mean it's different now, but back when he was I just love those episodes because it's just I just am interested in that kind of stuff.
SPEAKER_06:What part of radio was he? He was the morning show. Oh, disc jockey, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, well, he wasn't a disc jockey. Well he did they did the it was the Freebird Hot Wing show, so it was like they didn't spin records. Yeah, yeah. So it's just cool to hear you know the like the inner workings of like how and because obviously I'm a podcaster, so I'm kind of interested in that. Sure. But um, yeah, people love the the uh behind the scenes. That's what I'm looking for. I was like, what am I yeah? I keep saying backdoor, and I'm like, that's a different show.
SPEAKER_06:That's that's a different show, right?
SPEAKER_04:But yeah, the behind the scenes of like how things are created. Um honestly, one of the first times I went live on TikTok, I was editing an episode, and I got so many people like asking questions about editing.
SPEAKER_06:Oh, I imagine, yeah, they have no idea, and like then yeah, that's some of the most interesting shows you know, you'll be flipping over, and it's uh uh on one of the I don't know, Discovery Channel or something, like how stuff is made. Oh, yeah, how it's made. Oh my god, that's so interesting because you never think about it. You know, we use all this stuff, we we buy, you know, we're such a consumer society and we buy all this things, but you never think about you know, how does that widget get made? How does that chair get made? How does you know everything get get made? It's interesting to watch.
SPEAKER_04:The the the funniest one, not the funniest one, but I was seen one just recently. Um, cookie ornaments or cookie things, the metal ones. It's like seven, eight different little like, you know, it's not like just a stamp, it's like a round metal, and then it just all these different points, and it's it's not that complicated, but I'm like, I would have never thought that's how they made it. I thought they'd have stamped all that shit out.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, yeah. And maybe they do, but I did some you know, I did some factory work to put myself through college. So I worked at a uh plant. We make baby diapers for I worked for a couple years, which is okay. And then worked at a Hills pet food plant for five years. So really dog food. Yeah, pet food. But uh yeah, the diapers were pretty interesting how it all comes together. This huge, long, giant machine. Okay, and you know, everything comes down then. And it's so funny. I was talking about that this with a uh friend of mine at work this the other day about like private label brands and how it's all the same stuff because we we'd be running these diapers, and you start bagging for one store, and then you just grab you know, new bags with a new name on it, you know, same diaper, exactly the same.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, I mean, they're not gonna change a whole line, they just make a special deal with this company, or that's why it's it pays to buy like Meyer, or I say Meyer, a lot of people don't know Meyer, but Walmart brand label, yeah.
SPEAKER_06:Brand or store label.
SPEAKER_04:Every once in a while get something that like food can be a little free.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, but um if you look at medicine and stuff like that, it's like you look at the labels, it's like okay, it's got the exact same active ingredient at the same amount, you know. That that's that's just a no-brainer. But it is cool to see how things are made, especially uh, you know, stuff you never thought about how how it's done. Or like you said, you know, people that have never edited anything, audio or video, right? I'm sure you know it is. It's a you know, it's wow, that's that's amazing. That's how it's done. You know, you just don't ever think about it. Yeah, uh, because all they hear is the finished product.
SPEAKER_04:Correct. Uh one last story about jobs. I actually worked in a factory for a few years too. I worked in a furniture factory, and we would take, we would make, well, most of the movie theaters in North America, the seats were made at the place that I made. The wood part. We made the inside. So you take pieces of veneer and you run them through a like a spreader of glue, and then I would stack them and whatever the number called for, then I would take that and put it in a dye, a heated like thing, and it would just come down and then it would go on a skid and then go other part of the factory, and then you know, they would saw it. But yeah, I made like all the movie theater seats that used to sit in were are I don't know if they are now, but they're they were made by this this company, the inside. Oh, that's isn't that wild?
SPEAKER_06:That is wild, man. It it is it it is it is neat to uh I used to love to watch that show, you know, how things are made. Uh just and you know, almost anything that you see, you just don't ever think about how it's actually built, right? How it actually gets from raw material to you know to your house, to your hand. It's pretty freaking amazing. It is. I you know, I I'm glad there's smart people out there who know how to design all this stuff.
SPEAKER_04:No shit. Oh man. All right, moving on. Uh this I kind of like this. Uh this is an Amazon flex route. I'm gonna show. And I like it that it's in Nashville, and I know you're from Kentucky, but you have a little bit of uh knowledge of Nashville. And this is the picture that comes up. Um, you may want to look at it on your I am, yeah. I'm looking at it. It's kind of hard there. But uh so this is a I'll just read what he wrote. They they oh sorry, I meant the first line. They ain't pissing me off this weekend. Uh it's three and a half hour out start time, 8 a.m. around seven arrives, 747. The guy who scans IDs wasn't out there until about 8.02. Okay, I guess I didn't need it. He had uh 60 packages. Okay, I should have reread this. Basically, he said this shouldn't be a three and a half hour route. They crazy if they think I'm driving 200 miles on a three hour.
SPEAKER_06:200 plus miles. Yeah, that's that's a pretty that's a pretty good spread there between those. Is it? Yeah I mean it's yeah, I mean uh just you know, you think uh Nashville's that kind of that inner circle there that you know is is the city. Right. So yeah, I mean it's a pretty so pretty little thing.
SPEAKER_04:It looks like Murfreesboro, and then I don't know what's the other numbers. It doesn't look like it's too big of a city, yeah.
SPEAKER_06:He's over there towards Spring Hill. Um, yeah, I I couldn't tell you you know how far it is between those two, but yeah, doing that route would I would say be ever better than 200 miles. Really?
SPEAKER_04:Because, you know, a lot of people don't understand, and and I'll repeat it here because just you know, if someone's listening to the show, when you get a flex route, you are paid from your start time from the warehouse, but when you drop your last, like they don't pay you to drive back. Right, you're done. So so that route could take you from start to your last stop three and a half hours. That drive back, you're not paid for. Now, normally I'm done half hour, 45 minutes, maybe even an hour before even my end of block time. So this seems if that if you really think that's a long ways, and it's I mean, I the lat the biggest number I see there is 33. I mean, that's still a hell of a lot of stops for having that much driving.
SPEAKER_06:Oh, you're doing some GPS and like how far from Spring Hill to Yeah, I mean it and but it's even that it's not the you know the distance, all those, you know, you got all those stops in there. Well, look at number 13. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_04:Number 13 from number 33. I mean, geez, that's pretty good ways. That's a long ways, but uh I've never denied a route. I've always just taken it. I I don't know. Um really yeah, I and especially if I was gonna deny one, I would deny it before I even because you don't see this until you scan the code to to let you know where you're going.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, so from Murfreesboro to Spring Hill is uh is is uh a little over 40. It's right at 40 mile, a little over 40 miles. Oh, so that's not horrible then. That's not that's not as bad as that. So it looks so bad.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. So 40 miles. I don't know what I mean. I you can see where he is.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah. Um I wonder where I I guess you I guess the warehouse would be where he's gonna be. I guess so.
SPEAKER_04:If I would assume he took that screenshot right when he it scanned up for him, yeah, I think so.
SPEAKER_06:So yeah, he's gotta start out going over towards Murphy, going down past Murfreesboro.
SPEAKER_04:So if if Murfreesboro to that is 40, from where he is to his routes, probably only 20. Yeah. Yeah, it's I don't know. I'd be surprised.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, but I mean, from 13 down to six, and then I mean the most I ever drove was 180. Well, I mean, 180 is close to 200. Yeah, pretty close. I I don't know if I ended up you got that electric car, you don't care. You don't care.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, I don't care when I fucking run out. Uh run out of juice. When if I'm in the boonies, there ain't gonna be no charger. No. Um I was trying to see a lot of these when I see these, they're like, Oh yeah, I'm not doing all this for$83. I'm like, why the fuck are you taking these for$83 in the first place? Yeah, you know, that that's the biggest problem. Is like that's your first mistake. I mean, I get it, you know. I'm not gonna judge anyone, but I'm gonna say it on here, or like if you're bitching about it, I don't even have to say it. People get to it before I do, anyways. Like, hey, you chose the route. Like, yeah, you if you're not gonna know what you're gonna get, you're gambling every time you do that. Yep. So geez. Bubba Sue, glad I'm not on flex. No, I mean, if you do it right, it's it can be pro it can be profitable.
SPEAKER_06:If you do it like faith, it's wonderful. Oh my god.
SPEAKER_04:I don't know, I don't see anyone else talking about that. It's gotta be just those warehouses in Vegas or something. It's bizarre.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah. She was, she had last like three in a row or something.
SPEAKER_04:Fucking she, yeah, and that what that what was the last show we talked about? She she overslept, and that one she didn't get a freebie on or something. Yeah. Traveler Flex works great for me. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_06:Again, it's it's make it market in you know, market dependent, uh, like all the all the gig you know, gig apps are.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. Hey Pete. Yeah, well, I love it that it once I grab one, I know what I'm gonna get. Like that's what I'm gonna earn. So, regardless of mileage, you know, I can bitch and moan about it, or I can just shut the fuck up and get out there and get the route done.
SPEAKER_06:You know, yeah, listen to your music and yeah.
SPEAKER_04:I mean, I I wanted 25 an hour, I got one for 25 an hour. What are you complaining about? You know the risk going in. Like you might get a 150 mile, or you might get an 80 mile or I get it when I was running my my SUV. I mean, I was getting 17 miles a gallon. I died when I would get long routes.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Because I remember that. Oh my god, it fucking used three quarters of a tank. That was not worth it. I that flex is tough if you're in a gas guzzler. It just Yeah, I would think so. It's just a big mileage game, honestly. It doesn't really matter if you have an SUV or or a car. You better have something that's fuel efficient. So all right, Lyft dick and the dog here, Larry. Uh, like they all do.
SPEAKER_06:Like they all do, though. We've never heard this before. Uh, Lyft has to pay New Jersey 19.4 million dollars over misclassifying 100,000 drivers. So uh the story's a little confusing to me. We'll get to that.
SPEAKER_04:Uh you know, I I read it too, and I was hoping that you would explain it a little bit.
SPEAKER_06:So it's Lyft. Um, they paid they paid to settle a case, as we said, involving misclassification of drivers as independent contractors. Said an audit was triggered when Lyft drivers filed for unemployment insurance and disability benefits, revealing that Lyft had not made required contributions to the state unemployment, temporary disability, family leave insurance, trust funds, and workforce development funds from 2014 to 2017. Well, back then nobody was thinking uh really as classifying them as drivers. I mean, as as employees, not as much as they do now.
SPEAKER_04:Well, no, but I think later on they talk about the ABCs of like if you qualify, and I think in that area they did, right? Right.
SPEAKER_06:They have they have certain qualifications that they list a couple of them on here. Uh so yeah, it says um after the audit, Lyft was assessed more than$10.8 million dollars in past due contributions plus penalties and interest of more than$8.5 million. So in 2022, Lyft um filed a motion to contest the finding. Uh they sent it to the state office of administrative law. And Lyft initially went ahead and paid the$10.8 million to stop so it wouldn't get more interest bill. So they went and paid the$10.8 million. And while they continue to contest the you know the judgment, but then last month, just a few days before the first hearing date, they withdrew their request for hearing and paid the remaining balance of more than$8.5 million, bringing their total to$19.4 million. Um and similarly in 2022, Uber paid New Jersey$100 million for misclassifying drivers as independent contractors.
SPEAKER_04:So they so this was before all the like AB5 and stuff like that, right?
SPEAKER_06:Well, it was 2022.
SPEAKER_04:So oh no, no, no. So it wasn't. So basically they said that they were independent, but what they were doing was not independent work.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, it says they misclass you know, misclassified them as independent contractors. Um so let's see. Um here's a here's the things they list. So New Jersey's law presumes a worker is an employee. Says they include they use ABC tests. So it says according to the test, a worker uh should be considered an employee unless all of the following things are true. So number one, the individual has been and will continue to be free from control or direction over the performance of work performed both uh under contract of service and in fact. And number two, the work is either outside the usual course of the business for which service is performed, or the work is performed outside of all the places of business of the enterprise for which service is performed, courses written in legally.
SPEAKER_04:So well, the first one they they already screwed up. The first one you talked about.
SPEAKER_06:And then the third one is individuals customarily engaged in an independently established trade occupation profession or business. So yeah.
SPEAKER_04:The first one you read is that's you know uh that's kind of what uh we do. Yeah.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, pretty much. So yeah, I think this is this this is uh you know, back in in kind of the early days probably, or earlier days, uh, which is uh when they first talked about it up there, what was it, 2014 to 2017? That was the earlier days of Lyft and Uber, uh, and probably you know, even in that area of the country. Uh so the debate wasn't really going on. So eventually somebody filed, you know, some some of these drivers end up filing for unemployment and stuff. And and somebody at the office is like, hey, these people should have been paying this all along.
SPEAKER_04:Well so I guess my question is is New Jersey like, are they considered employees then?
SPEAKER_06:Because it certainly sounds like I mean doesn't it?
SPEAKER_04:I I don't know. I know it is I mean if they lost that if they lost the lawsuit, I mean well yeah because they because they didn't pay into it but I didn't really hear much like we thought it was the big deal with California. That was the start of it but the way it reads is like New Jersey from day one has been you're considered an employee not an independent contractor.
SPEAKER_06:I don't know if Steve would know so much if he's been on quite a bit lately but he would be like oh let me tell you yeah I mean I I just I just googled it and it says no it says they consider them uh independent contractors although they proposed laws in May of this year that would classify many gig workers as employees.
SPEAKER_04:Well that doesn't help me because then that article doesn't make any sense.
SPEAKER_06:So here you go it says Uber previously settled a case with New Jersey in 2022 for$100 million over allegations of misclassifying drivers. So the settlement did not admit that the drivers were employees.
SPEAKER_04:So they paid it but they like it's kind of like pleading uh you don't plead guilty you plead no contest no contest like you're guilty I'm gonna pay it but I'm not I'm gonna admit it yeah okay a hundred million okay now we're starting I mean well yeah I mean Uber I mean they're so much bigger than Lyft's though. Oh that was Uber's was yeah that was Uber's was a hundred million and Lyft's was total 18 point something million so yeah well they're always trying to scam yeah I mean how many how many times have we read about them having to pay out you know pay out pay out pay out pay out pay out pretty much at least once a month I feel like something drops about you know yeah I mean we could have we could have the rideshare lawsuit of the week segment too you know I mean we really could lawsuit of the week presented by Pepsi no no we can get one of those law those rideshare lawyers to sponsor that segment oh yeah yeah for sure God that'd be hilarious yes it would uh all right um kind of a controversial video a little bit this was happened um you know and Faith and I kind of argued I I think it was a month ago about dogs being loose uh not argued but we had a discussion about who's at fault so this is a 42 second video um driver comes up sees the dog apparently pepper sprays it owner's not happy about it and uh and then uh violence ensues sorry I had a brain fart here we go it's hard to see holiday right now you can say what fucking weird okay well I would've I mean I would have paper straight him yeah that was so I didn't like a lot of these times I don't watch them because I want like my yeah you want your initial reaction to be you know authentic and genuine I did watch it but I didn't hear any of the sound like so it's a lot it's a lot both of them the guy walks up the dog's like hey hey buddy like really and then one second he just hits him with it like dude I I may have beat the shit out of the guy too oh you don't believe it you you believe the drivers out I don't know I mean homeowners it's you know watching it on here uh I you know I've got my screen it's it's I can't see it great yeah I can't either it's it's small it's it is small and um so I'd have to you know so what questions do you need clarified because I saw the whole thing but you know did the did the dog growl at him I don't know you can't hear that right I didn't hear that but I mean the dog didn't even start barking until the homeowner went over there so like I don't know it seemed very quick triggered right to spray it and like you saw the guy working on the car like I don't know to me I'm like just gonna back up then right yeah you just slowly back up I I feel like of course he doesn't deserve to get hit I don't know I would have I might have fucking hit him I love my pets a lot you know what I mean I know I know I know yeah I I would have backed up and and like not run don't run just slowly back up and then hey hey bud can you grab the dog for me like that's all you would have had to do yeah certainly I think we would both have handled it differently uh I I I don't I see any any way I would have paper sprayed that dog from what I saw.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah I mean there was no movement it was just like even if even if he had like growled a little bit I like said I think I would have stopped I would have been like hey bud you know can you can I get your dog you know or you know and they're something to that effect.
SPEAKER_04:And they're smart enough like the dogs it the dogs growling for a reason right and if he sees you backing up he's like okay yeah you know I protected my house we're good you know I mean of course there are they're animals he could attack them I mean there's it happens all the time but then that's then you pepper spray him you know well yeah I mean he attacks you then then you can do it but yeah I mean I would say he he he definitely pulled the trigger a little quick on that I mean gonna get fired I mean I think you would have got fired if just for pepper spraying the dog honestly because you're not allowed to have any like weapons I mean that we talked about did we talk about on the last show? Yeah the little the the sound thing that they're they're giving all the drivers yeah um I mean that's technically not a weapon but like pepper spray can be used on people too so sure so he's gonna get fired just for that alone. Yeah so um yeah so you're more on the on the driver's side on that huh as far as like I I'm I'm not necessarily with the driver on it. I I wouldn't have reacted like he did yeah for sure for sure I mean by the letter of the law or the the right thing to do it is on the owner to like God he had to see the truck pull up I immediately would go grab my dog I'd be like get right well my dogs don't go out the front yard anyways you don't like go in the backyard but I would be like bro inside let's go you know what I mean I don't even want to deal with that but that makes me think either the guy didn't see him or the dog's chill yeah yeah and because if your dog you know is is a chill dog and and you don't think about it as much when somebody comes up you're not you're not thinking oh my god I have to put the dog up because he's gonna jump on him you know something like that.
SPEAKER_06:So if the dog's just you know used to being outside and and there's a chill dog you're probably not gonna think about it too much.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah but I can see that happening but I would you know you know you're supposed to put him up yeah and if Faith was on here I would still at the end of the day agree with her like it's still the responsibility of the home the dog owner to secure your pet when you're getting delivery I mean it's I think what's happening is like we are getting so many more deliveries now it just becoming like we're getting more relaxed. You know remember when it used to be a thing of like oh I'm getting like my new phone and I gotta be there and got to sign for it and like now they just throw it from the fucking street you know pretty much yeah airmail it right to you. Yeah you know and it's not a big deal. I mean I got three packages delivered at three different times today from Amazon. You know what I mean? So I don't think people think about it as much. Yeah yeah it's it's an everyday occurrence now yeah and you don't know when they're coming if you're getting food delivery you're like okay they're on their way but it's like with Amazon it's just so much different. So not an excuse but you still got to be responsible. Yeah. All right Larry a golf in this story I'm like I want to s I there's no video but I just read it in the Valley girl voice of like the influencer and I just wanted to slap her the the Valley girl yeah oh my God Becky look so yeah this is a story she's a golf influencer who uh went to watch the Ryder Cup and obviously you know when when it's done everybody's trying to go home at the same time um she said that uh you know she could just couldn't believe that that how much that the the ride was going to cost she said when they when they came out there from they were staying in Times square so when they got wait when they went from Times square you know to there it was like 190 to 200 which is already I mean it's not cheap by any means.
SPEAKER_06:But she said when they were uh when they were coming back she took a screenshot of it so I'll just read you what the prices were for so an uber x is going to be 440 an uber xl was 448 comfort was two dollars more than that uh uber x xl was seven hundred and forty dollars uh a premier su vhous seventy seven dollars yeah so this is you know pretty extreme uh surge pricing right but it's a you know uh the rider cup they know it's a big area and they know there's you know there's tons of people wealthy people uh at these events and I'm sure they take all that into account in their algorithm so they attempted to get an Uber at uh I think like 630 she said uh my screen's being weird here um she said I could see about 250 people waiting in line just to get an Uber so we were probably gonna be said she said they were probably gonna be here for two hours anyway and still pay that price um said when they requested a driver it didn't even give them a you know estimated wait time that it was going to be um you know it just kept like loading and loading and this they were you know they had another event to to get to and they were for worried they weren't going to make it um she's an influencer she had a deal some kind of deal she's working with DraftKings uh for the Ryder Cup so she managed to make it to a uh house that the company had rented nearby and uh then when they got to that house that they were able to call an Uber from there which only cost 90 bucks so that guy sounds like they got out of the surge zone maybe a little bit yeah maybe a little time had passed and uh you know saved them a little bit of money but traveler said the drop the driver got 20 which is not true but not far off you know what I mean but you know this girl she's influenced she's from Indiana she said it's just you know being born raised in the Midwest she's like New York prices just blow her mind anyway you know she's like if I'm in Indiana I'm gonna get an Uber anywhere it's gonna be like 18 bucks yeah I I don't know you're an influencer it doesn't I shouldn't that's such a I mean I could say I'm an influencer you know what I mean I ain't making shit so maybe she's not making that much but I mean if she's getting sponsored by DraftKings you got to be she's probably making a little bit she's pretty yes yeah I mean she's very pretty she said to and then she's like today we actually took lift because we found out that it's way cheaper than yeah no shit you check both apps you call yourself an influencer and you don't even know yeah it's crazy I was I I looked yesterday because I dropped my car off um to get get new tires yesterday okay for my car and so the car light will run you you know they have a shuttle service so they dropped me off but then my car was was going to be ready they were supposed to pick me up at four o'clock when I got off and I get out there and like quarter after four nobody's showing up so I just wanted to check prices and Lyft was going to be like it was five five six bucks cheaper than Uber. It was going to be like 22 on on Uber and like 16 I think something like that on on Lyft um if I ended up taking them but lucky they ended up actually showing up finally about 430. Oh that's nice that uh that they uh provide a shuttle service yeah they've always done that um is it a tire place or like the dealership no it's dealership oh okay yeah dealerships do I I you go to the dealership for tires yeah just because I um they do you know if you buy your tires there they do the free rotation and everything and uh they've done they've always treated me good on the tires.
SPEAKER_04:Okay.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah if if they oh I don't I don't know if I ever told you about this um if it's about tires probably not no car related our our uh our the school where I work at we have you know we have like uh auto maintenance program stuff so we can get we can get work done i got i all we have to do is pay for parts no yeah so I got my brakes done last week okay yeah 79 front rear brakes yeah I don't know if I'd want them to do anything super complicated but well I you know that's what my wife's like do you trust them well yeah what's I'm sure the professor I'm sure they look at it they're you know but well like what's the warranty on that you know you got some 21 year old just smoked a bowl exactly well that's a good deal that's like uh the haircut place uh cosmetology schools when they'll do that your hair really cheap um yeah yeah I was talking to the the instructor and he's like yeah if you're if you're an employee here then uh you don't have to pay anything for labor you just 25 you know you just pay the parts and then it's 25 dollars on top of that and he's like are you a student I was like well I take two I took two classes and he's like well so you're a student so it doesn't cost anything for your student oh just the parts just the you know just pay for parts so how great for like students that go there because you're already strapped for cash when you're in college yeah your car breaks they did like some auto body work they have auto body you know program too so like my my uh boss he had a dent in his car and they you know they got it out for him just some body work for him you know at Granville you know a lot of these schools are getting rid of like tech stuff uh not tech stuff but like trade school stuff uh but they're bringing Granville's bringing it back so our right next to our brand new um like our office or whatever they're building uh connected to the bus mechanics like uh there's they're bringing it back they're bringing back like car repair so there's like three days yeah yeah see I'm um you know Sky CTC where I work I mean all all the you know all the four year universities pretty much everywhere their their enrollment is dropping because people are not seeing the value as much anymore. I know it's and you know we we can argue that yeah for sure but um but our enrollment in the past I think three years has gone up 40%. Well yeah if you're offering more hands on stuff yeah we have we have the number one rated nursing program in the state oh wow okay yeah we have like I said we have we know we have uh computer information technology we have HVAC we have electrical we have you know automotive um robotics i mean we've got a lot of good stuff and these kids man they and they make a big deal it's cool how they do it like they'll they'll have a they'll have a big uh you know it's like how they have for the college athletes when they sign with a protein okay or our high school kids sign with uh a college well they'll do that these these big companies will come in hire like heavy equipment operators and stuff and they'll have a signing day man that'd be cool it is pretty cool.
SPEAKER_04:I bet the girls love that shit oh they eat it up man yeah yeah that's amazing yeah I I've heard a couple of uh interviews about they talk about like plumbers and electricians that are close to retirement and they're like hey who's who's who's the next generation they're like we don't know yeah no one's going to school for this stuff they've been pushing college for the last 20 30 years and we don't have plumbers and and and we do and there will always be plumbers but there's not gonna be enough of them and you're gonna be paying three hundred dollars an hour for labor. You know what I mean? So there's our TED talk for the day. So Aldi you can now get Uber Eats delivery from a popular discount grocery train Aldi first to accept food stamps um so this is always interesting for me to talk about uh I yeah so snap recipients can now order groceries from a discount grocery train Aldi uh more than 2500 Aldi locations are now available on the Uber Eats app. Obviously with the same day on demand schedule deliveries um so yeah it's just a brief little thing about it uh Uber Eats is celebrating the partnership by offering 40% off all the orders of at least$30 and then yeah blah blah blah um I I don't know you know I'm you know I'm liberal but like I always get some of that in there it's like why I mean I if someone can't get to the store I get it but like why are we offering this um I don't know maybe I'll just leave it at that you can you can figure my tone out but um isn't Aldi cheap enough already yeah actually Aldi's starting they're all creeping up meg and I were just talking about that um everybody is yeah yeah I love Aldi yeah literally at dinner tonight because I said hey just to let you know um not that it matters but she does she has a Peloton membership I'm like it's going up six bucks next month and I'm just like why is it like it seems like the last year everything has gone up two or three bucks and some of them we have a security system it's gone up four times in the last 18 months. Really? And it's not it's like two bucks here a dollar here. Yeah yeah but it all adds up it all adds up but so I I'm glad this is an opportunity I don't know I don't know where you draw the line before it's like well you know are they paying more for this like are they using more of their snap benefits because the food costs more because like normally when you shop they inflate the prices you know so there's there's a whole lot of like issues I have with that a little bit I mean obviously I want to help people out but I'm like should the snap benefits go for ordering online and getting it delivered I don't know I feel like you should have to somehow qualify that you're unable to get to the store I mean I love that the that would be available but like if you're fully able and have a car why are you using snap benefits to get it delivered to your door that's that's just me same reason people who don't have snap benefits I know the lazy yeah it's not lazy I feel like it's a luxury it's convenient well it's convenient but it to me it's a luxury I don't do it we don't do it no I don't either no it's just like the food delivery I don't you know I don't do it we have it we have like the Walmart plus where we can order online and go pick it up but like I don't want to pay uh which is no they always promote say no delivery fee but I got a tip now I got a tip 10 12 bucks I didn't want a tip so we just go pick it up yeah yeah I'm always game to go pick stuff up yeah for sure so that's just my two cents on it I mean I'm glad it's available but yeah um I also personally don't think that uh you should be able to buy what you can on snap benefits too I think there should be a little bit of a limit on that but discussion for another show and I'm liberal so that'll tell you something all right here we go da da da Waymo in the news so talking to Larry uh it's feast or famine with with Waymo news because I bet I added six videos this week of different things um which one did I end up going with uh you went with the school bus oh yeah of course you know breach to the school bus for sure yep oh god I have a funny story I'm gonna tell you on the Patreon it's embarrassing it literally happened today about the school bus okay say it for Patreon yeah I'll say it for Patreon I it just triggered what it happened this afternoon so uh so this is uh a Waymo that basically uh ignores the Reds so they're kind of like humans too it's 51 seconds hey have you seen these driverless Waymo cars cruising around Atlanta while some new cell phone video shows those cars may not understand all the rules of the road watch here as a driverless car passes a school bus with its stop sign out and lights flashing as children were getting off last year state lawmakers passed a bill that increased the penalties as driving past a stop school bus.
SPEAKER_01:We brought that video to one of the bill's co-sponsors he says the law applies to autonomous cars as well.
SPEAKER_00:The majority of our traffic laws the the penalty is usually a fine andor driver's license suspension. These cars don't have a driver so they don't have a driver's license and so we're really gonna have to rethink about who's the responsible party who's gonna be considered to be in control of that vehicle who's going to be the operator of that vehicle we reached out to Waymo about this incident the company says it's looking into how this happened.
SPEAKER_04:Well I pulled the wrong fucking video there was a couple of them on YouTube but that didn't even really show it did a little bit but I wanted the full like yeah what pulling around the bus. Yeah I mean obviously the gist of it the the reds were out and and and honestly I I see online there's so many times where people actually ask hey this happened today did I do something wrong people don't understand the rules and it's honestly different in every state but it's mostly the same you know yeah and and people get confused you know if there's a if there's a turning lane in the middle or if there's a divided you know highway you know there's all different rules for the different streets and yeah it it boils down to divided if there's a divider there you don't have to stop uh if there's a turn lane it doesn't matter it it it counts as uh a lane doesn't matter what it looks like um and then a lot of people if you have your hazards on like because I'll do I don't have one this on my route right now but sometimes we'll just put hazards on and people will stop for those and like you stupid fuck that do those look like the yellow lights and then red up top no they're literally hazards you can go around it's so annoying when especially if I'm behind somebody like there's a couple buses on the same street and they're stopping and I'm like I'm trying to get past this fucker like go I won't honk but I my kids and my bus are like hey you okay you know what I mean you're right there Mr. Jason yeah you all right there buddy and I was just like oh go so uh but he does bring up a good point I think they're gonna have to fine him way more than they do oh yeah a thousand dollars isn't gonna it's not gonna make them do nothing no no it's gotta be like I don't know maybe they maybe they have force them to shut that car down for a couple of days or something like that car can't earn money or something like that.
SPEAKER_06:But to me honestly Larry don't you think that's a pretty simple thing with like that doesn't seem that complicated from everything it's not like it's you know it's something that looks like something else really it's no it would be pretty specific and uh um yeah some you know some you don't know why something's hanging happen. It's just like when when when the one got caught in the traffic circle just kept going around you know what would cause it to do that you know there's what who programmed that uh to happen or how did that I mean that that seems like a glitch I feel like the light is I don't know to me it just seems simple.
SPEAKER_04:I mean seems yeah I mean bus is hard to miss it's pretty pretty big you'd be surprised I mean we we've already had two accidents this year already not our fault unless like fuck dude it's breaking yellow yeah what more can we do? Yeah I mean we fucking idiots but uh so yeah that was Waymo in the news we got a bunch more in the in the can so we'll look forward to that all right speaking of Waymo that's Larry's last story uh yeah so this happened out in the Bay Area California uh so um there's a team of police officers they're doing a DUI operation on Saturday and they pulled over this car because it made a illegal U-turn right in front of them.
SPEAKER_06:Uh but when they walk up there there was no driver it was it was an autonomous Waymo car. Yeah um so they interviewed these guys and said that um you know they stopped the vehicle and contacted the company to let them know about the glitch said since there's no human driver a ticket couldn't be issued our citation books don't have a box for robot right hopefully the reprogramming will keep it from making any more illegal moves. So yeah it says according to Waymo you know its vehicles are trained to detect and respond to everything from fire trucks and ambulances police cars and police motorcycles noy didn't say anything about school buses this police officers can safely pull over Waymo by flashing emergency lights at it um so yeah so it was a DUI checkpoint yes and so they saw the lights and they did a U-turn apparently yeah okay I just just wanted to double check but you know that makes it says in here that it shouldn't it shouldn't do a U-turn it said the emergency lights it should pull over so I don't know of course California they got a right they're on the on the leading edge they're passing they passed legislation uh starting in July 2026 which obviously is is already already uh no coming well it's coming up so yeah a year from now starting in july 2026 officers will be able to issue notices of autonomous vehicle noncompliance when a car without a human driver goes rogue the citation will be sent to the vehicle manufacturer yeah I mean do you don't you think that we kind of should have done this you know before we man it's hard for laws to keep up with tech I mean it takes you know how it is it takes a long time like when uh uh you know webcams and all that started getting uh popular um our our you know online pornography started getting heavy you know the revenge pornography where these guys was sending pictures of their ex-girlfriend and stuff it took a long it just takes a long time for those laws to catch up yeah I feel like there's got to be something that can fast track them when it's especially that that revenge porn stuff like or retroactive although that would be good no that wouldn't be good but yeah I I don't know I I mean sending a uh non-compliance I mean what does that mean like oh naughty naughty so what you do if you next time you get pulled over just tell them you identify as a Waymo car and they can they can't give you a ticket that's right you send it to the manufacturer send it to the manufacturer I identify as a Waymo not my fucking problem.
SPEAKER_04:That's right.
SPEAKER_06:So all right guys thank you so much for uh joining the show again 8 10 p.m for the Patreon you can actually be on the show with us that'd be yeah please do join the Patreon with us that would be a lot of fun uh Larry what's plans coming up this weekend yeah so um uh actually uh one of our sons from Virginia Beach is coming in uh for a couple days nice two two of the boys the one from Cincinnati and one from Lexington uh since he's coming in they're gonna come in so we'll have a uh a couple extra mouths to feed here at the house for a couple days you won't you won't hate that though yeah I don't know we it's it's we always love it when the kids come in we get to hang out and visit with them. Dan who's who's from the Virginia beach area we we usually only see him at Christmas so it's uh it'll be a great treat to see him and uh but he'll he you know he'll be here for a couple days so I still plan on I'll be out working tomorrow night and um I imagine I'll probably get at least a little work done this weekend as well.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah I don't remember I don't think I have anything this weekend so I might do some gig you need to rest man you still need to rest no well my wife so I forgot about that field trip like I I didn't forget about it but I didn't put it in our scheduler and uh my wife didn't know where I was and I was like oh I'm gonna field trip well she thought she thought I went out and just did gig work oh yeah because it wasn't in the calendar and she's like I was about to because I had just gone back to work you know I had called in six she's like what are you doing working all day and I'm like I had this field trip it's like good money and she's like oh I thought you went out and did gig work I was gonna throat punch you she'd do it too yeah she would no but uh so yeah I might do some gig work and obvious obviously Lions football I think we play four twenty five against the Bengals so okay I should I have to look at
SPEAKER_06:Not even sure who we play this week.
SPEAKER_04:It's it's Bengals, Chiefs, Bucks, the next three games. So. Yeah, I know we play y'all on Monday Night Football. We're gonna have to put money on that one.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, it's uh what? What what? What was that? No, no, I said now. Yeah, you didn't seem very confident. We played the Seahawks this weekend. Yeah, that's yeah. I wish I'd have me and uh Seth were gonna put money on the WKU Southwest Missouri game, and we just we kind of didn't get around to it.
SPEAKER_04:But you could have done no chip challenge. Loser has to do the no chip or the no chip, the one chip challenge.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, but he probably I think he likes spicy food, too.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, I don't know. That's fucking hot though. Nah, Clarence's like, nah, I'm good. Nah, I'm good. All right, guys. See you in a little bit. As always, don't put up with anyone's bullshit. We'll see you on the road. All right, peace out. Hey, good night.
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