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Drivers Win Big: California OKs Unionization for Uber & Lyft! | Ep 267
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The California agreement allowing Uber and Lyft drivers to unionize marks a significant shift in the gig economy landscape, coinciding with reduced insurance requirements from $1 million to $300,000 per driver.
• California's new deal works alongside Prop 22, allowing drivers to organize while maintaining independent contractor status
• Spark issued unexpected back payments for tip adjustments, with some drivers receiving hundreds or thousands of dollars
• Waymo expanding to Denver and Seattle, their first "winter weather states" for autonomous vehicle testing
• Lyft increased maximum fare caps from $300 to $720 for standard rides and $849.99 for XL rides
• Uber announced plans for train service through the Channel Tunnel to compete with Eurostar
• A new game called "Cherry Picker" simulates the high-pressure decision-making rideshare drivers face
• John's Honda Civic reached an impressive milestone of 700,000 miles on its original engine and transmission
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Hello, hello, welcome to the Gig Economy Podcast, episode 267. I wrote the title wrong. I'm having trouble with numbers, aren't I, Larry? Like the last couple, I've been this like screwing it up. I swear it's 267, right.
Speaker 3:I think so. Yeah, but we'll just have to make a new disclaimer no math, no geography, no numbers.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, exactly no numbers. So 267, not that it matters. We're going to talk about the big win in California, about the unionization opportunity for Uber and Lyft driver, gig workers, I think, in general. But before we get into that, go to gig economieshowcom for everything gig economy show related. I want to mention our Patreon members Samson from Grand Rapids, Bud from North Carolina, Omar from Detroit, Delivery Cats from Michigan, Frank from Philly, Tom from Volo Illinois, Jim from Connecticut, Miguel from GR, Linda from Tampa, Jerry from Kentucky, Faith from Vegas, and then we got a new member. The name is Metal Kickass. That's the name they put down and we don't know where they're from. I did send them a message. So if you're out there listening, love to hear where you're from. You don't have to tell us, I guess, but we would like it. But if you want to join the Patreon, go to patreoncom. Slash the gigacon podcast Lots of tiers, three different tiers you can choose from. It has varying rewards and so on and so forth. Larry, tell us about the Telegram group.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the Telegram group is how we communicate. We have uh gig workers all across the country Uh, sometimes all over the world that we communicate with. It's a good way to get to know some other gig workers who know the joys and the agonies of doing gig work. Uh, you can bitch and complain we know what you're talking about but it's also uh helps you not feel so lonely when you're out there on the road doing deliveries or doing ride share, and a good way to make some friends in the gig world.
Speaker 2:Hello, what's the next part of that?
Speaker 3:Hold on. Oh, so new, so new. I thought I froze up. I was like oh, oh see, so new, so new. I thought I froze up. I was like, oh, Well you are.
Speaker 2:It is on the struggle bus already, I'm telling you, but yeah, Okay, so yeah.
Speaker 3:Well, our new feature that we started last week is our telegram clip of the week.
Speaker 4:Jason's going to play for you now Fuck today this last order I was dropping off, walking up to the door and there was a fucking snake around the edge of the cement right in front of the stairs, like two feet from me. I don't do snakes, I don't like snakes, I don't care what kind of snake it is. Again, I jump. The guy is standing right there and he's like, oh, it's just a gardener snake, sir, I don't care, I don't care what kind of snake it is. Fuck that, nope, nope. If this was my house and my yard, my whole yard would be on fire right now, like I don't know how many jump scares that my heart can take today.
Speaker 3:Yes, our, our poor friend gabe. He had already been scared by a dog, uh, when he was making a delivery and jumped yeah and then and then came across a snake. Uh yeah, I'm fine with snakes as long as I know. Like somebody said hey, I got this snake, I want to show you. I'll hold it okay, whatever but but when you, when you, they frighten you or surprise you out in the woods. Uh, you know you. You step over log and one is sitting right there. Yeah, that scares me oh yeah, you're gonna.
Speaker 2:You're gonna scream uh, uh, I have a big me and the gardener snakes in my yard hat. We're trying to have a relationship because I, like, I love, hate relationship. I love them. I love them, uh, because they eat a lot of bugs and, uh, I, every year I get a, you know like I have one that has babies, like I've seen little snakes and stuff. But man, the other day, maybe like a month ago, not the other day I ended up mowing over one. I'm like bro, we have like bro, we and it. Just I didn't see it and I chopped him up. But today I was. What was I doing? Oh, spraying weeds in the backyard and oh boy, did I rustle up a big one just sit in the yard and I was like, okay okay, we're cool you, you go back in the woods and I'll do my thing, and then I'll leave and you come back that's right.
Speaker 3:You do your thing, I'll do my thing, and never our paths shall cross right right.
Speaker 2:Oh, my daughter's like so afraid of them, like they are just the tiniest little things so oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, we.
Speaker 3:I mean, we used to catch them when I was a kid. We would you know, around this pond, we're in this cornfield or soybean field and stuff. We would you catch the little ones. And then you there's ones. We called them black racers because they were fast and they would, they would chase you. Oh really, yeah, yeah, I mean they weren't closings or anything, but they were fast I wonder what is it about snakes that everyone hates, like, is it you know?
Speaker 2:is it just the surprise? Are they just? Is it just they're just? I don't know.
Speaker 3:It's something about them that everyone goes back to the garden of eden man yeah, it might it definitely might it definitely might.
Speaker 2:So, uh, everything we talk about as far as links are in the show notes, like the telegram group, you can join that there. Tell us where you are when you join, um, and then, of course, the patreon link, uh, and then the audio podcast link too. You can download that. So, um, let's do some stories of the, let's get to stories from the road, let's do it. Uh, go ahead, you up first.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'll go. Um, so I had had to. Uh, first one was thirsty Thursday, last night and I just had a conversation like 15, 20 minute conversation with our youngest daughter about being safe and ride, share and at concerts and stuff like this and sticking together and all that, and told her that you know, a couple of times I've had to tell girls hey, you know, you need to get in ride, don't, don't shove your drunk friend in my car and then go back to the party. So just had that conversation first ride of the night. Thursday go to pick up at this Mexican restaurant up on campus, two girls standing there. I pull up, one girl gets in the other, one's like get home safe and turns and runs back in the restaurant. I'm like, you know, at this point I didn't know this girl was wasted. But I'm like, hey, how you doing? And she's like I don't, I don't, I have no know what's going on is this the audio you sent me?
Speaker 2:yeah, yeah, I should have pulled that, I would yeah and um, she was, she was.
Speaker 3:she's like I don't know what she's like. Is it mexican night? Is it introduce yourself to a friend? She's like I don't know what's going on. I was like, well, you were at a Mexican restaurant, but I don't know about all that other stuff, but I was like what, did you have a good time anyway? She's like I don't know, I don't remember it's like. It's like she got roofied.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Seriously, she was that out of this car. I am wet, I am so wet I am soaking.
Speaker 3:My ass is soaking wet and I was like, oh my gosh, this girl is pissed in my car yeah, and luckily it turned out that she had just poured a glass of water, dumped a glass accidentally dumped some water in my car, okay, but it's a pretty good amount it was. It was like a puddle. And so she goes to get out of the car, takes one step and just bam, right on the right on the parking lot, just out laid out. So you know that is, it's a girl you don't want. They didn't bust their head open.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:So I'm kind of looking at her and luckily this girl and guy walked by and the girl I like. Can you help me for a minute, please, would you? Would you help look and make sure she's okay? Okay? Cause I don't want to touch her Right, right.
Speaker 3:And uh. So she comes up and looks at her and she's like, hey, uh, she's actually losing my dorm. Would you like me to walk her back? I would love for you to walk her back. And then the dude turns around. He's like are you her dad? And I'm like, no, I'm not her dad. I'd be beating her ass, dad, if she was this drunk.
Speaker 3:So then the second story was on saturday night I picked up, um, some ladies and they were telling me they wanted to get my, you know, get. Uh, they asked if I had a card so they could call me for another time, because they're like you're a, a good driver. She's like tell him what happened with your driver last night. And this girl tells me this driver took her home and they got to her apartment and she, you know, she put her hand on the seat to get out and this driver grabbed her arm and would not let her go. He wanted to go up to her room with her, yeah, and so she put her hand in her purse she's purse. She's like I have a gun and I'm getting ready to shoot you if you not, let me go. She said she had to tell him twice and he, and then he let her go.
Speaker 3:Wow, and I was like I hope you report him. She's like well, I tried to go on the app but I couldn't find him anything. That was exactly that incident kind of incident. I'm like keep looking, please report this guy. Yeah, we wouldn't get these people out. That is ridiculous. I was like if this dude who had that girl I had Thursday night, there's no telling what he would have done to her.
Speaker 2:That's wild. Yeah, that's scary.
Speaker 3:It is scary. It's scary, but they were fun. They were. They were really fun. Before that we were going through that, a cop was pulling the guy over and like oh, he pulls you over.
Speaker 2:We'll flash him, we'll get you out of it. I was like well. I appreciate that, ladies. I would have been like well, while you're at it.
Speaker 4:Can you flash me?
Speaker 2:let's practice yeah, yeah, let's. Let's make sure we got it right. Let's make sure let's get this all down. Let's make sure we're going to actually get out of the ticket yeah, like one more time.
Speaker 3:I think we can do better.
Speaker 2:I think do you want me to play that audio of your ride? Yeah, sure.
Speaker 3:If you want to, yeah, I'm going to have to boost it a little bit.
Speaker 2:All right, how are you doing? I'm good. I don't know what's going on right now, but I think it's going great.
Speaker 3:Okay, not going to get sick on me, are you?
Speaker 1:No, no, I'm confused, like I don't know what the fuck like it's Mexican night it's?
Speaker 3:I don't know, I'm confused like what the hell y'all bitches doing? Like is it regular night? Is it Mexican night? Is it introduce yourself night.
Speaker 2:is it any of the above? Like I don't know, did you have a?
Speaker 4:good time anyway. Um, I don't know.
Speaker 2:I think I did you gonna be able to make it back okay. My fucking ass dicks are already wet. I think I do my fucking ass cheeks are already wet.
Speaker 3:So yeah, he's gone. Well, we're here. Do you want me to walk you to your dorm, her?
Speaker 2:ass cheeks are wet. Dude, my ass cheeks are fucking civilly fucking wet. I'm going God damn my shoes are fucking wet.
Speaker 3:What happened? How'd you get wet?
Speaker 2:I'm wet. Whenever you get people out, I'm wet. I'm fucking wet. I don't know what's going on. I don't know what's going on either. I feel like I'm fucking up.
Speaker 3:I think that's when she hit the ground right.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh, that's great. I forget like I listened to it. I don't know where I was at the time, but I did. It hit better tonight, when she's not, because you like described it. And then I hear I'm like, I'm she's, I'm fucking wet I know it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and she and uh, um, I was like dude this. If this is how my night's gonna go, you know, I'm gonna, I'm gonna call it, you know, but luckily, and if she, if she, had pissed in my car, if that's what I, yeah, my night would have been over. But my next ride was really great. Some, really great people and uh, so the rest of the night was was more uneventful, um, and actually people were tipping pretty good. So, okay, yeah, very decent night uh stories for me.
Speaker 2:Um, I realized I forgot to grab another screenshot, but I can just describe it. Um, I did um some spark and then I had a couple uber eats orders. Uh, one of the u Eats orders was a shop and deliver at Meijer, and it was some flowers, and I'm like, oh God, are you kidding me? Interesting thing, though when I went to go get the flowers, they put a price of like $14.99, right, like assorted roses. I just grabbed like they weren't all roses, but they were some roses and $14.99,. I didn't have to scan it, it was just like, oh, you got it.
Speaker 2:Um, so that was a little strange yeah and then the comment was like uh, like the notes was like oh, why not flowers? Or something like that. I'm like, do you realize you're writing that to me anyways? Like it was like he was trying to like flirt or something like that. So then I get there and then he sends me a message and he's like hey, I don't know what apartment it is, it's an apartment complex, yeah. And he goes, but where on the? Well, he didn't even say lower level, it's the patio with a lot of flowers on it. So I'm like, all right, there was one with a lot of flowers on it. So I stuck it back there and I took a picture. Well, I tried to, and it was uploading and uploading and then I just kind of X out of it and I thought that and then it said do you want to mark it as delivered? And so in my head I had thought maybe it just was in a glitch, like you know how it just gets in the cycle.
Speaker 2:But apparently I didn't leave a picture and he reported it not delivered, so I got a report which is like I never get them. So it's one is no big deal. But, um, and I was really having trouble with my phone that day but come to find out verizon had a huge outage. I don't know if it was, it must have been saturday and really, yeah. And so I'm not on verizon but I'm on, like xfinity, which, using verizon towers and it was very hit and miss, but it makes sense now.
Speaker 2:I didn't even know about. My friend told me he's like how's the gig world with verizon being out? I was like I don't know. There's no problem, no one's talked about it. Yeah, and he's like oh yeah his phone was on SOS all day.
Speaker 3:Oh crap, yeah, that's not good.
Speaker 2:So so, yeah, I think that was the problem. It was just everything was just so slow that day, and I guess that's what it was. But yeah, I got a report. So not the end of the world. No gold star for you today. No gold star, although he didn't remove the tip, like I got all my pay for everything. Yeah, that's weird. So I don't know, but I, I fought it. But then it's like so do you realize, when you take a picture and I and you're probably like, yeah, you're dumb, jason, when you take a picture through the uber app, it doesn't save in your camera roll right, yeah, yeah, it does not.
Speaker 3:It's uh just passing through yeah.
Speaker 2:So when I went to go, uh, fight it, I went to go to my camera roll, which I kind of knew already, I thought, but maybe sure enough, it, uh, it wasn't in there, so I couldn't show the picture which I think. That's, I think that should be an option, don Don't you think?
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, if people want to do that, have it saved locally too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because just for instances like this, yeah, I mean, I understand that, um, you know, maybe people don't want it, but give us the option and you would think apple would like, oh, you know, say, hey, that just let you know this. I mean, I don't know. I know you'd have a lot of pictures in there, but like that's my problem, I'll deal with that on my own yeah, you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you can delete those at the end of every shift if you want to and there's apps out there that you can use that you, but you have to take two pictures. I think, like you'd have to take your, you know, with the app and time stamp it and all that fun stuff, and then um, and then with the app, but or with the whatever. So yeah I don't know.
Speaker 3:I was kind of frustrated because I know I fucking delivered them yeah, I mean I don't not deliver shit like that's just not me, so exactly, and the dude didn't even know what apartment to deliver to.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's obviously trying to mack on this girl or whatever, and I guess I don't know. It's fine. I mean he described where it was and I still kept my money, even though he reported it, but whatever, yeah, all right. Moving forward gig economy in the news, like I said earlier, california reaches a deal with Uber and Lyft to allow driver unions, and Larry's going to talk about that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so this is a pretty big deal. Uber and Lyft have been fighting this for a long time as far as allowing drivers to form a union, um, but the governor made a lot of concessions as far as the amount of insurance they have to have. They did used to have to have a million dollars uh insurance on each driver and now I think that's lowered to like 300,000. Yeah, so pretty significant. Um, so, yeah, it says under the agreement, your driver's going to have the opportunity to organize for increased pay and additional benefits. Uh, supposedly this is going to, you know, being able to reduce that insurance, that that mandated insurance. Have a million is supposedly going to lower prices. Um, significantly, is what they say.
Speaker 3:Yeah, um, in the state of california, because that supposedly they've had some, you know, higher prices because of that insurance mandate, and they say that it's, um, it's, it's way more than than, like taxis and buses and stuff have to have, according to them. So, uh, somehow it got introduced and passed at one point. Um, but I think, from what I can tell, um, it sounds like it's not for all gig workers. I think it's just for the rideshare. Okay, yeah, it says they're going to slash the minimum insurance requirement to $60,000 per person and $300,000 per incident. The original rules were established back in 2015, when rideshare was just starting out. Yeah, so full details of both of the bills are supposedly going to be available early next week.
Speaker 2:Yeah, a couple of things. Bubba Sue and I were kind of chatting back and forth about unions in the group and we talked about Prop 22. This is going to be in with. Somehow they're going to be able to do it with Prop 22. So I guess that's not going to change, and I think she had brought that up about like it being a law, um, but I you know that shit can change and stuff like that, but I guess it's not going to affect it or it's going to work around it, um, so the insurance thing is interesting. So, um, I wonder why they went so high, do you? Do you think? Like when they started doing it, uh, governments were like hey, bro, this seems dangerous, like because if yeah, that's not the standard yeah, yeah, you know I.
Speaker 3:You wonder how, how it? How it did get, um did get, did you know, set at that high amount? I'm trying to find in here where it talked about it. It says yeah. It says um, you know, the original rules established in 2015 are outsized insurance requirements, don't that don't apply to other forms of transportation, such as taxis, buses or limos? So, yeah, it might just been a. This is an unknown thing and we need to set this high until we see how this shakes out and then you know how it is. You know, after it gets implemented, it's hard to change.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, yeah, absolutely it's, you know, same with the Prop 22. Obviously, once you know it's tough to change, you're better off making something new than trying to change something that's already, you know, established. So I wonder what it like for your state and my state. I wonder what it is. I don't really know if that's the standard. Also too, I mean, obviously they bargained with that. Hey, we'll lower the requirements, but then you'll let the union or unionize. So I'm I'm really interested to see how that's going to work out. It seems like it's going to be a clusterfuck, but I mean it's california.
Speaker 2:So well, I mean it's not, probably will be I'm just saying, like in in regards to like unionization. Like you know, with our district they only there's one union, there's not, well, there's teachers union and you know stuff, so like that. But I mean, is that going to be like that in california? Is it going to be like a union for lift, a union for uber, or is it going to be, uh, you know, one for both?
Speaker 3:I, I have no idea I think it, I think it's. Yeah, I think it'll cover both of them. I.
Speaker 2:I think Bubba Sue says that keeping the Prop 22 in there so the unions can't fight for more money. Oh, they're going to try though. Yeah, they're going to try, and we'll talk about the little Prop 22 thing a little bit later yeah.
Speaker 3:And before we move on to our next story, I just want to pause for a moment. This is a very historic moment.
Speaker 2:John's car just hit 700 000 miles I saw that I was gonna do the same thing. Break minds, think alike. My man, yeah, I saw it pop. I saw like john posted a youtube video and I'm like what? So I just, yeah, I didn't click on the video, but yeah, 700 000 miles.
Speaker 3:It's original engine, uh, original transmission. It's a honda civic. Yeah, um, yeah, he, he's put uh just an amazing amount of miles on that car and it still runs pretty good yeah, seven seven hundred thousand miles of 2011. That's a lot of miles for a 2011, though well, yeah, I mean think how much he drove there. I mean there for a year or two he, he worked every day. Yeah, his medical deliveries he did not take like a day off right, but that's I mean.
Speaker 2:My uh pilot is a 2010 and it's got 275, so just put that in perspective. How? Many miles, 700 is, and what's it been? Uh 14 years. Uh yep 14 years. Are you doing the math I am.
Speaker 3:So what 50,000 miles a year.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I did that in my head. I didn't even have to have to uh use a calculator for that, but you, but I still didn't spurt it out.
Speaker 3:Spurt it out.
Speaker 2:That's gross.
Speaker 3:So cheers to John and his 700,000-mile city.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's amazing. All right, moving on, so you guys know we've tried to build a TikTok account and I finally had a couple videos like quote unquote, go go viral for me, and so I want to play that one. This is about well, let me just throw this up real quick um, this picture. So this is, as you heard. Uh, spark paid out a bunch of money for tipping adjustments, adjustments to tips from earlier periods. We'll play the video and then we'll Damn it wrong button and then we'll kind of talk about it. So here we go, bro, we're about to get rich.
Speaker 2:You may have got an email overnight from Spark. Looks like somehow they messed up and there's a tipping adjustment. So you're going to be getting a credit plus interest in your account. So if you're an active driver and you have your account, you can look in there. I ended up getting $117, but I also saw people get $600 plus. So, depending on how long you've been sparking, I don't know if this is to try to stop a lawsuit coming down, but it does make me think. What is going on with Spark? What have they done? I mean, maybe it's an honest thing, but they're going to be paying out a lot of money, especially someone that sparks full time. So make sure you check your spam folder or re-download the app if you're not, if you don't have a one account. Uh, they said they're gonna send a check in the mail. But this is pretty cool, tell me how much you got. Okay, so that video it got 135 000 plays. Yeah, and there were so many comments, right, uh?
Speaker 2:sure and it's like a full-time job. It literally there's so many comments. But the comments were like I got this, yeah, I got this. So then I started making up shit. So I'll be like, because I, you know, they say you're supposed to comment on everything so that they get the notification, they go back and it replays or whatever. Yeah, so then it was they'd be like oh, I got $5.50. I'm like, oh, great, you can buy a coffee. And then I was like, oh, take me out on a date. Someone would get like $40. I'm like, hey, let's go to a movie, but so many comments on that? Yeah, anyways, I was pretty excited about that. Anyways, I was pretty excited about that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's fantastic man. It's cool to see.
Speaker 2:And we're. You know, we literally added, like in the last week, 200 followers. Yeah, like it just kind of jumped up. So it's been really cool, but anyway. So tell me what your thoughts on this is. I mean, like I said in the TikTok, it seems kind of shady. And $600 was that? That wasn't the most. I mean, no, they didn't show me receipts, but some people were like I got 3k. Some people were like I've been sparking for three years full time.
Speaker 3:It got nothing yeah, and that's the thing it seems like. Um, so many of the other things with these gig companies it seems random. Yeah, uh, for a large part. Um, because, yeah, if somebody's been doing it full time for a couple years and they get nothing, um because, yeah, if somebody's been doing it full-time for a couple years and they get nothing, and you got somebody who's been doing it for a year and they get, and they got, you know, maybe six hundred dollars or something. That just doesn't. You know how does that work?
Speaker 2:how does that happen? I started commenting on the ones that said they didn't get it. I'm like, well, just be thankful that you didn't get ripped off. I mean that's yeah, you know this is not money that just fall out of the sky.
Speaker 3:This is money that was yours, yeah, that you're yours it and they withheld correct, uh, incorrectly. So, yeah, it's. It's not, um, you know, anytime people get a slump sum, they feel like it's christmas. You know, regardless of the fact that, hey, this is money you should have had, yeah I mean I, I, and again, I don't know how much the interest was.
Speaker 2:I don't think it really. I think it did break it down, but, um, how much of it was interest. But yeah, they, there were a lot of excited people on that tiktok saying like, oh, this couldn't come, uh, at a better time. And you know, this is really going to be a blessing and I love that for them. But just know that the company, you know, I wouldn't say like I want to think that they weren't being intentional about it because obviously they sent it out. But then I also think, well, maybe someone's been barking up their tree about a lawsuit and they're like, well, we better, we better figure this shit out and send it back out. I don't know, yeah, so I'm I again, I'm glad, I'm, I'm glad it happened, um, and I'm happy for people that got a nice little, like you know, tax refund. It felt like, so they'll probably all blow, go out and blow it on hookers and cocaine, but you know, whatever, you blow, I mean whatever you want to do with your money, that's up to you.
Speaker 2:So, yes, that is uh all right, larry, lift drivers. Uh, the max fare has increased.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so, um, it used to be for the longest time, until just recently, the max that, um, you know that we always heard and and and saw uh on a lift ride was 300. So we were always like, well, we wouldn't take these, you know, six hour trips or something if we ever got the chance to, because you're not going to pay, you pay more than three dollars. Um, but this broke on the uh, I think it was the ride share guys, one of his channels but I'll display everybody.
Speaker 1:Go check your rate cards when it comes to lift right now, because they had changed the caps, so these screenshots are from la. As sergio's app um maximum for lift regular is now 720, so that is a great bump from the 300 cap.
Speaker 2:Sounds like he was having some great bump from the 300 cap.
Speaker 3:Sounds like he was having some audio, yeah. So, yeah, I pulled up my rate card, uh, which I hadn't looked at since we went to up front pricing yeah which is weird because it still says per mile, it still says the dollar 17. Really, so, again, it used to say up front, like I remember checking this after we went down from pricing and and it said upfront pricing, hmm, um, but it says, yeah, $1.17 a mile, but it says the maximum is 720, just like theirs that's for um, that's for lift, regular, and for extra comfort or xl, it's $849.99.
Speaker 2:Okay, I don't know, that's very specific I don't know why they put that limit. I mean, I know why they put it on because they wanted, you know, in case people were scamming and charging the card and stuff. But just do what Uber did Just put a hold on it and tell you all, figure out, make sure everything's good and then release the money. But yeah, there had been a couple of times when I used to do ride share and I was, you know, offered trips like that and I'm like this is $300.
Speaker 3:You that and I'm like this is 300 bucks. You can know that's not a thing, yeah, but it does crack me up and that it's 720, even, and then for xl it's 840, 849 dollars and 99 cents do not question lift. There's got to be something about do not question.
Speaker 2:Well, it's probably.
Speaker 3:It's probably an error, larry, because you're still says 117 a mile for you yeah, it could be yes, $100, 17 a mile, 15 cents a minute I.
Speaker 2:I think you should do some lift rides and then say, hey, you need to pay me what it says on the rate card. I mean, you have the rate card, there you go, unless your app hasn't updated, and although it's got the 720 on it, so or whatever I'm looking at their website oh, you're on their website yeah, I'm not on their website. Oh shit, interesting. I wonder what it says in your app, though um, yeah, well, I'm streaming.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I can't look at it right too many phones.
Speaker 3:We got too many phones going on um, yeah, interesting well you know I'll look at it, though. I'll look at it and and see before we do our patreon. I'll look at it and see what the rate card on my phone says yeah, I think it's a good thing. I I again, I don't know why they did it, you know, um, yeah, yeah, I think it's a good thing but the bad thing is now that they've, you know, they've increased it now, but now nobody, you know, none of us want any long rides, because they pay shit.
Speaker 2:Well, maybe that maybe this is what they're thinking is oh, this will excite them that they can take it, but it's still the shitty rate, maybe this weekend.
Speaker 3:On Saturday I had two offers to go to Nashville to the airport, which used to be 95 bucks at least and it was $42. That's what they offer each time, and one to Louisville, and it was like $55.
Speaker 2:And Louisville is farther than Nashville.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, louisville is like an hour 45 minutes. It was $55. Yes, I just laugh at them. I mean, I was like man. I don't guess I'll ever take a long ride if that's what they're doing, but it's so weird. And then we see these ones. Um, you know, I saw another one posted yesterday of this lift ride. It was like 530 trip for like a like a two-hour trip or something. Like man, if it's real, I I love it for the drivers oh yeah, I I.
Speaker 3:I think that was on uber yeah, I would love to see one of those and uh, because I would jump on that. But yeah yeah, these ones. You know it used to be such a thrill to get a long ride and I used to love them, and now it's like no way not not driving down there, getting in that traffic, having to deadhead back for that price right.
Speaker 2:Uh, on tiktok. Someone commented making the that bread. Uh, they said this is the best podcast ever so. So funny all the time. I just joined the Patreon. So apparently this person uses are you Metal Kickass Uses different names, so they're on TikTok and making that Brad. Yeah, let us know how you found the show and what market you're in. I'll do it live. Yeah, we appreciate you. Yeah, so much, all right. Moving on. Uber announces get ready, they're going to get their hands in everything. I know you're going to be excited. Uber announces Channel Tunnel train to compete with Eurostar. So I assuming it's oh shit, what? Okay, let me click out of it.
Speaker 3:It said because you know, sometimes you read them once and then you go to read them again and they lock you. I can't read anymore.
Speaker 2:It. Let me read it Nice. So this Uber train Uber trains, I mean seriously they've got their hands in everything. Ames are on 10 high-speed trains from London to Paris using the Channel Tunnel. So, me being ignorant, is this an actual tunnel underground like a subway? It is.
Speaker 3:It goes under the ocean.
Speaker 2:Okay, for sure, that is wild. So passengers will be able to book the tickets via the Uber app. Blah, blah, blah. There was something else. So Eurostar has long held the monopoly of a cross channel trains. More companies serving in the route could mean reduction in ticket prices. Yeah, obviously, um Gemini, stressing it will focus on affordability for travelers, wrote on its website. We believe that unashamed customer service first culture, coupled with great value, fairs and truly innovative offerings will help reinvigorate rail travel. Um, but there was like, let me go down here a minute. God damn it, there was a cut on them. Shit. I need to find someone, find me a, uh, um, a chrome extension highlighter, because I had one and it doesn't work?
Speaker 3:oh, I'll send you one. Oh, you got one. Yeah, yeah, I use it all the time. Oh god this is the problem?
Speaker 2:because I it stopped working and every time I try to remember to find one. I'm in the show because there was something. Uh, oh, yeah, let's see. It says eurostar has long-faced complaints of high prices and regular delays and cancellations. So yeah, send me that when you get a chance we'll do uh, making the bread, said youtube is how I found out about the podcast. Nice, I've been listening since the beginning. Shut the front door. Since I start, since we started no way. That's a long time ago.
Speaker 2:That's a long freaking time um, so, yeah, this is uh, this is interesting. I just I think it's cool to talk about this stuff that uber's trying to get their hands in and uh, yeah, they'll eventually wreck it like they do everything else as far as um, whatever they do well, I mean, it's like we talk about.
Speaker 3:They want to be the one-stop shopping app. You'll be able to get a ride-share car or rent a car with Turo, or get a bus ticket or a train ticket or rent an air taxi or whatever it is.
Speaker 2:I mean, we shit on them all the time, but it is kind of a cool feature if you think about it, like you and I can travel somewhere and just freaking open the app and we can get a ride, we can get a train, we can get whatever and we don't have to really like. It's nice for for people that don't travel, that are traveling.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, and I've talked to a businessman before and remember I specifically remember talking to this one guy who was here. He was from India and he did a lot of traveling around the world and he's like I love the Uber app. He's like it doesn't matter where I go, it's the same app I use the same app. I don't have to worry about it. I can go here, I can go to Europe, I can go back home to India, wherever I'm at, and I just use the one app he's like. I love it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think that's great because even, uh, I've done a little traveling in Mexico not vacation Mexico and you, like the people I was with, they're like, hey, make sure you negotiate with them before you get in the car. You know what I mean, cause they'll you know I don't know the language and you know they try to screw you over. They said so, just be careful. But like, yeah, the app, it does all the conversion for you, like everything's right there, you don't have to worry about it. So I gotta give them props for that. I mean, that is, that is nice yeah, that that's for sure.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we do talk crap about them a lot, but they you know, they do come up with some, uh, some big plans.
Speaker 2:Yeah, for sure uh, moving forward, I just want to talk a little bit about Prop 22. Larry, here is this picture for you.
Speaker 3:Oh, that's a big picture, okay, yeah, yeah, because the Reddit article that we had in here, they took it down.
Speaker 2:They took it down, but this is a screenshot of the spark, of what they got Adjustments Right, their adjustments. But then look at at so there's what 680 total for their the interest and tip adjustment and then they got 1750 basically for the prop prop 22 I'm like that, that's, that's what is that? For a week. No, no, no, because remember, this is a month. No, no, this is the remember, this is the adjustment for what they did, so this person may have worked for three years oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, gotcha um, so it's not it's not.
Speaker 2:It's not a paycheck for a week this is just the, the payout their adjustment payout.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but still that's.
Speaker 2:I mean that's well again that I. I just want to kind of talk about the prop 22. Like everyone's bitching in california that they got it so bad and they want unions, and this is going back to the union chat, like that's why I was like, hey, is this, is prop 22 going to be affected by this, are they? But I mean they get so much money extra. I mean they make more on their prop 22 than they typically do in their app. Yeah, and, and I'm not, I'm not over here crying that I think it's unfair. I'm not saying it's unfair, I'm just saying you guys better shut the fuck up and just take what you got. Like I know the cost of living is more there, but like I I think prop 22 I mean I don't think it's really affected. Oh, you know, I don't, I didn't interview anybody, but I haven't seen people complaining about you know that it's affected their ability to get on the app, um, and I'm sure it's more saturated.
Speaker 2:I I would almost guarantee you that that they're gonna, since they're paying a lot more um, but I mean, I don't know, I just for me it's like I would take prop 22 over anything else, Like yeah, I would have to.
Speaker 3:You know, I'd have to look back over to you. We, we, we discussed it ad nauseum there for a while when it was hot and heavy. And then I think I was like, ah, I can't think about this anymore and I flushed it out of my brain. I'd have to review it again to to look at the pros and and maybe I'm just not looking in the right places, but I don't see a lot of people either complaining about it or you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean I for sure read about it online and read it a lot and you know, no one really says, oh, we hate it, like I don't see anything like that. It's more like, oh, thank God the Prop 22 help came in because I was, you know, I needed to pay a bill or whatever, and obviously that money is supposed to be for you to buy health benefits and and stuff like that. But I don't know, I would be more on the prop 22 than a union any day. I don't want to have to fuck with other people in organization. You know what I mean because you all I mean that's the point of it right, you all got to come together and then you got, you know, and we talked about. As much as I'm pro-union, there's a lot of shitty unions out there because they have terrible representation and they don't do what they're supposed to.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean, they're like anything else. It's a tool. They can be good or they can be bad. It all depends on who's running it and what their you know what their true motives are, uh, all that kind of stuff yeah and yeah if the, the leaders are motivated to uh, to do well for the, for the workers.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, all right, here we go. Weibo in the news. Can I tell you something just on a production level, before the show, I was looking for no, I made that clip, but I was looking online for clip of the week like I, I kept, I searched, like youtube, I, I did chat gbt, like give me some audio that someone says clip of the week and I'll like mess with it. Couldn't find it. Really, google didn't like I don't know if I because I, I don't know if I'd asked like in a in an improper way and I tried to rephrase it, but no, there was no one just saying like like I have even a uh, what is it called? Uh, it's called my instance, it's like a soundboard that people can like.
Speaker 2:You know, you know right I mean like that, yeah, like that, like there's all like little buttons and I even searched in there and like there was no audio for clip of the week. So, anyways, that's wow. Yeah, I might I have to create mine again, but anyways, waymo, we always talk about uh, you know them crashing and stuff. And here's a I believe this is a 10 second video of uh, a waymo car that hit a bus. Oh, there's no audio. So this says that waymo crashes in the bus in san francisco and it's a good crunch. There's a cop there. So, yeah, it's real short there, but are you trying to find clip of the week, are you? Yeah?
Speaker 2:I'm working uh, bubba, sue, waymo, starting in denver and seattle. Yeah, I, I chuckled at that because they said this is a first of their, of the what they say the winter weather states. I'm like, say the winter weather States. I'm like Seattle and winter weather, I'm like I think it just fucking rains every day. I don't think they get a lot of snow Now. Denver, on the other hand, yeah, it can snow three feet and all melt by the next day. It's wild in Denver, but so, yeah, I mean it's just one of those things you know. I mean accidents can happen and I don't even know if it's that way. Most fault they're right, there's not a lot of information around. It could be the bus driver's fault. I would, if I had, if I was a betting man, which I am, I would bet that that bus driver fucked up yeah, I mean we, you know, they, they always, you know the big deal is.
Speaker 3:It's a way more right. But yeah, you don't know if it whose fault it is. It could could have been the bus driver, you know, just pulled right in front of him or did something stupid yeah, yeah for sure.
Speaker 2:So, uh, yeah, denver and seattle, um, and I think, uh, bubba sue, I swear to god, I mean I look at so much shit, but I swear. Somebody said they saw one in jersey, a waymo car, new jersey I mean they're pushing towards New York so it doesn't. I mean, yeah, that's what they really should do. They should work on New Jersey and then get it all down and then look at the state right next to you is, I think, new Jersey is next to New York.
Speaker 1:It is, yeah, it's, right across the river, yeah, right across the river.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, because they say park in and take the ferry over to the city or whatever. Um, they're gonna be like oh uh, we're great in jersey. Now can we come to new york please?
Speaker 3:I think that's gonna be a nightmare, but yeah, I mean they're testing there, supposedly in new york, yeah I, I thought they had are they just got permission to? Oh, really I thought they, oh, they're mapping, yeah, they're mapping, yeah, okay so that's they're not having passengers and they're not doing the autonomous, but but they're mapping. Yeah, they're mapping. Okay.
Speaker 2:So that's they're not having passengers and they're not doing the autonomous, but they're mapping, and you know, soon to be testing I think Okay, because do you remember, a couple of weeks ago we talked about it and they weren't even that far, I mean from what the article said, and we were both like, oh God, it's going to be years. And then now they're mapping.
Speaker 3:So maybe not yeah imagine being, oh god, um, have you ever driven in new york? I have driven, I haven't. Me and my uh, me and my son and daughter, uh, were up there visiting my uh, my in-laws at the time and, um, for like three days, we, we would drive from their house into the city and it cost so much, like it costs. It's probably like 60 bucks just to get the tolls and everything to get in there you got to pay another you know whatever to park all day.
Speaker 3:That's another, you know, mortgage on your house, right, just to park for somewhere all day. And uh, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm okay. You know nashville traffic, chicago and stuff like that. But man new york's, just there, you know they're a okay in Nashville traffic, chicago and stuff like that, but man, new York's, just a different breed. Up there You'll have six lanes of traffic. There'll be like one car length open over here and this taxi dude will cut across six lanes of traffic to move up one car length and laying on the horn the whole time you're like dude, traffic's backed up for 10 blocks, ain't nobody moving. What are you blowing your damn horn for?
Speaker 3:I think that's chicago does the horn blowing too. I think that's just that's what they do honestly.
Speaker 2:They got their aggression, I guess yeah, if you have a car in new york city downtown, I would bet you don't care about it because you know they're rubbing it oh yeah, they're just scraping off each other and no one gives a shit, unless it's like a bad rack or something. But yeah, uh, god, that's not what Bubba Sue says.
Speaker 3:It's terrifying, like yeah, it'll drive you to drink. Yeah, it will drive you to drink.
Speaker 2:Bubba Sue's a hornblower. I am at a green light and Megan gets so mad at me. I'm talking I weigh one 1,000 and two 1,000. And then I blow and she's like like oh, it just turned green. I'm like hell, no, get off your freaking phone and move. You know what I mean? I ain't got time to freaking deal with you because you're on your phone. That's what you're doing. You're looking down, I can see. Once I honk, your head pops up and you look at the light. Oh my god, and there's a, there's a short light. Going back to the bus barn when I come from my elementary route and if, if one person is laggy, I ain't getting through. It's like three cars, like when.
Speaker 2:I'm on the line on that bus and there's buses behind me, I, it hits green. I mean I, I am in the gas. I'm always looking left because I, so I don't get hit and right, but I am in that gas. Yeah, and I'll blow the horn in the bus. I don't give a shit. If you're on your phone, I'm gonna beep at you so I can get home yeah, bastard.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, I had somebody do something stupid. I had a passenger with me and I'm not late on my own yeah, I always, I always do that.
Speaker 2:I'm like, oh, sorry about that, that guy was being a jerk. Or uh, sometimes the kids, even I'll, I'll be like honk, I'm an idiot. They're like, mr jason, don't say that. I'm like, well, hey, they deserved it. And they're like okay, they earned it, they earned it, they earned it all right around moving forward. Octopus tablet. You need this, you want this, you all love it. Uh, if you don't have it, what are you doing? If you're a rideshare driver, um, it, you can play or you can't play trivia. Uh, passers can play trivia. They have games, all this. Driver, you can't play trivia. Passengers can play trivia. They have games, all this fun stuff. They can win gift cards. It's basically an entertainment device for your passengers.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and so I wanted to tell you. I got the Octopus newsletter this morning or yesterday and they said that, uh, you know they're trying to get you to link it to your uber, uh, your uber account. Well, it says now that even when it's linked to your uber account, it shows games. I don't know if it's the same game or different games, so I'll relink mine and I'm gonna, I'm gonna try it, okay, tomorrow night and see what happens okay, yeah, I don't get the newsletters anymore because I don't have it.
Speaker 2:I get it like a referral, what I did for the month, but I never. I don't get the newsletters anymore. Yeah, which you think it would be odd they should send, maybe I I did not. It takes a lot of brow beating on me from emails before I unsubscribe yeah you, you wouldn't have unsubscribed, yeah, so I'm like I mean that's marketing 101.
Speaker 2:Send the emails because they might be. I mean, that's marketing one-on-one. Send the emails Cause they might be like hey, oh, that's right, I'm going to start ride share or I'm going to start driving.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, it is a little strange.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so check it out. Link is in the description. Free tablet, free holder, free charger, whole nine yards to make up to a hundred bucks a month.
Speaker 3:So, uh, larry, we got speaking of games. What a great. I did not. What a segway, I did not try. Dude, dude, take all the credit. Take the credit, man, just take it and act like you playing this.
Speaker 3:You were rearranging and changing oh yeah, I spent hours doing this exactly exactly so, yeah, so, uh, there's a company called uh gig you which uh makes an app, um, that will help you cherry pick your rides, and I think their app is called cherry picker. But they, they have also created a uber game called cherry picker and basically, um, you're, you're in the game, you're set up as a ride share driver and you have to make decisions on different things, just like you do when you're you're actually driving. Okay about, it will pop up, I have it will pop up you know an offer and you have like five to eight seconds to decide if this ride's worth it. And you know you can interact with passengers different way, like somebody will text you when you pull up and they're like hey, I'll be right out and you can. You know you can leave or you can wait, or you can send them a text that says you know, hurry up, get you. You know, get out here.
Speaker 3:Or you know when they come, they say, oh, I'm sorry, you can, you can be nice to them. You can not say anything. It's got a lot of different variables in it and you have a goal of making. I think it's $200 a day or something like that. So, yeah, so it says. Each game session puts players through actual cognitive load that faces gig drivers, with only five to eight seconds to evaluate distance payout, traffic patterns and their return trip potential, while simultaneously navigating traffic and ensuring everyone's safety. The countdown timer recreates the psychological pressure that most digital platforms use to drive rapid acceptance rates. Um, you know. So most people think that gig work is just driving and anybody can do it right, but it's actually a high speed business decision making under algorithmic pressure, and our game reveals why drivers who seem picky are being financially responsible. They're protecting their income, their time and everybody's safety, so okay um, is this a browser base?
Speaker 2:then must be yeah, you can.
Speaker 3:I think you can play it within their app, but it also you can play I pull. I have it pulled up over here. Um, it took me a while to find it because in in the article they read it said to go just to their website. Right, I could never find it on their website. And then you find out it's a little their website's like gig you dot app. Uh, you have to go to cherry picking dot.
Speaker 3:Gig you dot app slash game so um yeah, I finally found it, so I was playing another game. I don't think it's the same one, because I wanted to play it before the article, so I played it for a little bit, but I think the one I was playing was maybe a different one, so I'm gonna play this one after we get done tonight yeah, I'll have.
Speaker 2:You'll have you send me that link so then I can share it when I upload the podcast, if people want to try it, I will do it, I will send it to you as we speak. All right, I think we should talk to them.
Speaker 2:I think maybe Steve has talked to them. I know I've been seeing them around a little bit, so obviously I'm pretty loyal to Gary's apps. I currently don't use any Gary's apps. I don't do enough of rideshare or food delivery because I'm focusing more on Flex and Walmart Spark. I mean, if you could come up with a Walmart Spark one, I would love that shit. But yeah, I mean I'd like to try this guy's out. Yeah, it'd like to try this guys out, you know, yeah, it'd be fun.
Speaker 3:So the people who created this company and this game are from Brazil, uh, which they said? Uh, supposedly it's the um, the biggest ride share market in the Americas, and Rio.
Speaker 4:Okay.
Speaker 3:Uh. So it says you know, we didn't just build a game. He said um, our core goal is to build people's empathy and understanding of what a gig driver's experience is. After years of eating meals and sharing stories with drivers in rio in the early days, we understood the biggest challenge isn't traffic or navigation, it's making hundreds of high pressure business decisions per day with incomplete information. And that that sums it up right there. Yeah, that's what we do because, yeah, you get people. You're like oh man, it's just, it's super driving, you're just driving around it's easy money man, it's easy yeah, and and people think that's what it is.
Speaker 3:But there's more to it beyond that. You have to know your market and you have to, especially now with the upfront pricing you it's you're making, you're making these decisions and I don't I'm gonna have to time ubers. I don't think they give you even eight seconds anymore. I think it's, I think it's like five man, it seems. It seems like it's really quick man you should time it, because I'm going to when I go out tomorrow night.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna time it and and see why do they give so long on food and not on on a drive, on a ride?
Speaker 3:I don't know, because food gives you like a oh, it's an eternity. Yeah, it's, yeah. A lot of times you're like I'm gonna have to click this it's at least a stop I would, I would think so yeah yeah like it anyway, but uh, yeah it is, and and.
Speaker 3:Uh, you're making with, with, especially with upfront pricing now, and and and and some. You know a lot of times you're doing this when you already have a passenger, so you're trying to drive and not be weaving while you're trying to look at this and figure out is this ride worth it? You know, and and be safe at the same time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it becomes a safety issue, it does.
Speaker 3:It really does.
Speaker 2:So yeah, any of those apps that can auto-accept things or things like that for you. Don't do, maestro, if you're going to do it, that guy's a dick. Anyways, I hold a grudge. All right, let's skip to, because I have a funny thing I want to do. Okay, we'll do. The other two on the Patreon is at 8 10 pm. So this is a article about um, a driver that sorry, I'll make sure this is muted. Oh, I already muted it like a good guy. Two men save uber driver sinking car after one uber driver experienced a life-threatening moment last weekend. Um, after heavy rainfall, two bystanders stepped in to save him. Uh, he said, he crawled along and all of a sudden the front of my car went into the ocean like going off. Uh, the side of a table. It took seconds before they started to get in the water. The uber driver said uh, gusty said, with the rain coming down, a lack of signage and lights, he had no idea he was driving straight into the marina with a sphere drop-off. Why isn't it playing? Make a right turn.
Speaker 1:Wait, wait, wait, wait, no, no, no. No, it means bear right.
Speaker 2:No, it said right, it said take a right. No, no, no, no, no. Look, it means go up to the right, bear right over the bridge and hook up with 307.
Speaker 4:Maybe it's a shortcut.
Speaker 3:Dwight.
Speaker 4:It said go to the right, it can't mean that there's a lake there.
Speaker 2:He knows where it is going. This is the lake the machine knows. This is the lake. Stop yelling at me. No, it's up there. There's no road here.
Speaker 3:Of course, that's the first thing I thought about when we came across this story as well.
Speaker 2:Exactly. Well, I was doing my homework today, reading through them all, and I was like, oh, I got to find that clip on YouTube and, yeah, that guy cut it up, just perfect. So, yeah, this guy wasn't paying attention. Obviously, granted, there was some rain going on. Uh, yeah, apparently some people jumped in and pulled them out. I mean, it's you don't got a lot of time. When that happens, what do they say?
Speaker 3:when you, um, when stuff like that happens, like if you do, do you say open your window right away, like yeah, you're going under because, yeah, once, once the pressure builds up, but you're not gonna be able to open your door yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2:So I mean I I don't know if I would. I would hope I would think about that if that happened, because you got, like you know, I don't know, 20 seconds, maybe 30 seconds depending on the body of water, what kind of vehicle you drive so? That would be scary so he's okay, but I I had to play the, the office clip of course, yeah freaking love the office. Oh, did you know the?
Speaker 3:uh, this, the uh paper, the, the next, you know the yes made by the same companies. Out this, I think it's this week oh, really, yeah.
Speaker 2:So it's made by uh, what's his name?
Speaker 3:greg daniels daniels, yeah and uh. Oscar is actually going to be in. The guy who played oscar is in this one too.
Speaker 2:Okay is it the same? What's the?
Speaker 3:it's a newspaper like a. It's a newspaper that's fighting to keep from going under oh god so oscar oscar's there. He got hired as their accountant after, I guess, he left the paper company okay, okay, oh, my god, that's gonna be.
Speaker 2:Uh, that's gonna be good, because they're like struggling to survive in a digital world. All the hijinks that is gonna happen, that's yeah, I mean it's.
Speaker 3:It's hard to you know have lightning strike twice with with sequels and stuff like that, but hopefully it'll be well, with a sequel.
Speaker 2:You have other people, you have the people that were in it in it, and it sounds like if it's just oscars in it, I'm sure there'll be some cameos, for sure. I wouldn't doubt that. Yeah that would be good.
Speaker 3:I'm looking forward to seeing it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I heard about it, but I didn't really investigate.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's called.
Speaker 2:The Paper. All right, cool, all right. We're wrapping up 8, 10 pm today. What's his name? Metal or her name? Metal? What's his name? Metal or her name? Metal, kick ass. You can join the Patreon for the live stream at 8, 10 pm. And if you're listening right now, I know it's a little clunky you go on the Patreon app, don't watch it in there. Click the little YouTube icon. It'll bring you into YouTube and then you can comment in there. So and then?
Speaker 3:Larry, real quick. Anything going on this weekend? Let me think.
Speaker 4:This weekend Gig work tomorrow.
Speaker 3:I'll do gig work tomorrow night, yeah, thursday, thirsty Thursday, and then, yeah, I don't think we have any plans except watching football.
Speaker 2:First day of football watching my Bucs yeah, I am doing white caps all week. Last week of baseball, Whoa.
Speaker 3:Speaking of that.
Speaker 2:What's that?
Speaker 3:Speaking of that, we are going to watch our team, the Boneyard Hot Rods, friday night Because our work, you know they have like once a year. They'll buy tickets for everybody and we eat free hamburgers and hot dogs and stuff, and they had it earlier but it got rained out.
Speaker 4:So we'll be going to that Friday night.
Speaker 3:That'll be fun, that's the first time I'll have gone, probably in two years.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that'll be fun. So yeah, last week of baseball and then next week playoffs. We have one game for sure at home on Thursday next week and then we'll see we are dominating this year. We won the first before the All-Star break, we won um. We won the first before the all-star break, we won after the all-star break. Okay, so um, yeah, I, I foresee a title hopefully cleaning house. Yeah, for sure. Uh, making the bread says the nfl has a game on youtube friday. Yeah, I saw there was the chiefs play friday night.
Speaker 3:The chiefs play friday. Yes, okay yeah they're just. It's so weird to have football on Fridays now. Any day of the week you might have football.
Speaker 2:I don't hate it. Though I don't hate it, I'm not saying I hate it.
Speaker 3:I'm all for football and it spreads it out more, so you're not trying to watch two games that you want to watch at the same time.
Speaker 2:Yeah right, all right. Well, I will not be doing any gig work, but I will see you guys next week Wednesday doing any gig work, but I will see you guys, next week wednesday, uh, and as always, don't put up with anyone's bullshit and we'll see you on the road. Peace out. Good night. This podcast is produced and Thank you.
