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Uber Riders Cancel for Waymo, $175M Restitution for Drivers, Tesla Pays $33/hr Robotaxi Testers | Ep 265
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The gig economy landscape is rapidly transforming with technological advancements and policy changes affecting both drivers and customers alike.
• Waymo autonomous vehicles are gaining popularity in Atlanta, where riders cancel multiple human drivers to secure a driverless experience
• Amazon is eliminating backdoor and side door deliveries by August 2025 to enhance driver safety
• $175 million settlement for rideshare drivers in Massachusetts, guaranteeing $33.48/hour minimum pay for active driving time
• Tesla is offering $33/hour positions for robo-taxi safety coordinators as they expand autonomous vehicle testing
• Amazon is launching its "most significant grocery expansion ever" with same-day fresh food delivery to over 1,000 cities
• Drone delivery is facing economic challenges at $1,350 per delivery compared to $2 for traditional vehicle delivery
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Hello, hello, welcome to the Geek Economy Podcast, episode 265. I almost said four. We're going to talk about Uber. Riders are canceling for Waymo and there's a $175 million restitution for drivers that went out. And if you want a new job, tesla is paying $33 an hour to be a robo-taxi safety coordinator, something and something, something, something like that. So I don't know how long that'll last, but if you're interested, go to Gigeconomyshowcom for everything uh, podcast related. I want to mention our patreon members samson from grand rapids, bud from north carolina, omar from detroit delivery cats from michigan, frank from philly tom for volo, illinois.
Speaker 2:I will have a story about that uh jim from connecticut, miguel from gr linda, from tampa, uh jerry gill, gillette from Kentucky and Faith from Las Vegas.
Speaker 1:For Jerry, I just want to say happy birthday. Today is Jerry's birthday, so I hope he has a very nice birthday.
Speaker 2:Awesome, make some good memories, yeah for sure. So Tom from Volo Illinois. He was late listening to the podcast and he sent me a text. He's like dude, I'm like five minutes from volo illinois. I always just tell people chicago, because no one's ever heard of volo illinois and we talked about it on the show because last week, yeah, yeah that's where I visited so it was kind of cool. So he's like you need to change it in the. In the, the patreon shout out I was like so you're right there in his hometown.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I didn't even know it yeah, I think he's not in volo.
Speaker 2:I think he's just outside uh, mick something, mchenry I don't know what it is, but um, so, yeah, that was kind of a cool text. Again I'm like, oh damn it. Yeah, I didn't even know that. So that's a world. Yeah, small world for sure. Um, okay, uh, I lost my train of thought. Oh, so for Patreon, I want you to go check that out. There is a free seven-day trial. You can see if it's worth it for you. Definitely check it out. I mean it's free seven days. You might as well take a peek. If you join right now, by tonight at 8, 10 pm, we'll have the Patreon bonus podcast where we do after every show, kind of little after show for people that really enjoy the show and want extra content. Um, go to patreoncom slash the gig econ podcast for all that fun stuff. And then we have a telegram group chat where it's just a place for people to chat, and larry is loves doing this, so I'm going to let them do it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I love our telegram group. Uh, telegram is just an app, a messaging app, but along with sending texts, you can also do video or voice messages. Uh, when you're out driving, uh, sometimes it's a lot easier to do a voice message. So, um, you can stay in contact with and meet other gig workers all across the country. Uh, talk with like-minded people who do gig work as well, so they know what you're talking about when you talk about the the ups and downs of gig work, the joys and the frustrations, and you can make a lot of good friends on there. We, um, that's how, that's how I got to meet these people and uh, got to be a part of this podcast yeah, we should do.
Speaker 2:We should start a segment like voice message of the week from the telegram. Oh, yes, so like if you're listening to some and you think something, just save it and you can send it to me and I'd be like this is, this is the message of the week or the clip of the week, you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, kind of yeah.
Speaker 2:I think that would be fun, I mean it you know it doesn't have to be anything great.
Speaker 1:It would be fun. I mean it. You know it doesn't have to be anything great, it's probably going to be just talking normal. Then all of a sudden road rage at like somebody on the road and then right back to my conversation.
Speaker 2:Like nothing happened. Yeah without missing a beat, not yeah without missing a beat. Yeah, I think we should do that. That's that's our new plan, so that's a good idea yeah we'll play it like after we uh, we're doing planning right here, right on the show, after we do talk about it, or right before we go into it, like here's the telegram clip of the week yeah, yeah right, we introduced telegram.
Speaker 1:Yeah, play the clip yeah, good idea.
Speaker 2:It's done. We've said it live on the air.
Speaker 1:So it's done right, we're committed now, that's for sure uh, stories from the road.
Speaker 2:Um, I freaking forgot. I said long ass route. I don't remember what that was, I think I think I talked about it. We talked about going, or I ended up going, to kalamazoo and then it just, it just was a long route, it just it took me a long time. Um, and we also talked about how you win some, you lose some, and that's in every gig app we do. You get a nice one and you don't. But with Amazon, if you don't know, you just show up. You don't know where you're going, you don't know how many packages I mean roughly you know how many packages you're going to get.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but it really is a roll of dice as to where you're going. You don't know.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So if that, if that's not for you, then don't sign up for Flex, because there's absolutely no way you'll know. So the first couple ones I got a week ago or a couple weeks ago were great. This one was a little farther, but I made it. It just took me downtown for one stop and I had to almost park a block and a half away to find parking and then run back to my car. I hope I didn't get a ticket and then run back to my car. Hope I didn't get a ticket. And that took me in a little bit of the hood where I was like turning my car off because I was too far away. And it wasn't bad per se, it just wasn't my favorite, yeah wasn't the best.
Speaker 2:Wasn't the best. That's the only gay work I did, although I will say, speaking of the Telegram group, we were all on chatting.
Speaker 1:Was that that day? We were, yeah, it was fun.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so it was good. So, larry, what about you? Did you do anything, right?
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's the first time we've overlapped working, I think, in a hot minute. Yeah for sure. Yeah, so I did get back into the gig work the Thirsty Thursday college kids it still just amazes me the amount of humanity walking around at 1, 30 in the morning. Just groups of 20, 50, 75 people there, there's everywhere, just wandering around, walking across the streets like there's no cars, yeah, you know whatsoever. They don't pay attention, they don't look up. At least three times I had to stop or I would have run over people. That's crazy. Yeah, they just don't, they're oblivious to everything. But uh, yeah.
Speaker 1:So I worked thursday and saturday and uh, saturday night I um had a ride. It was a place called the white squirrel brewery. That sounds like a great place. It is. It's a very good place, very popular in town. So got there and picked up.
Speaker 1:Picked up, there was a couple. Well, I'm not sure they're a couple, cause he was. He was, I would say, a good bit younger than her. She was probably around around my age, so a little older, and but she was a talker. She was once. Food is funny, you know, just listen to her funny.
Speaker 1:So we get in and uh, take off and um, I think t swift was on the radio. She's like, oh, you like tether swift. I'm like, yeah, I like some of her stuff, you know. So, yeah, not all of I've grown to like a lot of her stuff. And uh, she talks a little bit about that and then, uh, just out of the blue, she's like so tell me? Uh. She's like, hey, hey, driver, what would you do if you were kissing a woman? And she, she used too too much tongue, just too much tongue, and I was like can't say that's happened to me. But, um, I was like, you know, I, I don't, I don't, uh, I don't know, I don't know if I'd say anything right in the moment.
Speaker 1:It, you know, you'd have to play it out and see is, is this a? You know, there's a lot of variables there. Is this a long-term relationship? Is this a one night stand? What is the problem? You know what's the deal here, right, and uh, but did you know? Just first I wasn't sure she was talking to me and uh, you know, I kind of looked in the mirror and she said, yeah, yeah, I'm talking to you, driver. Or she called me later, I can't remember, she called me by name. And so, uh, bit, a little bit later, a few minutes later, I guess on the octopus tablet um, there was a blackjack game or something.
Speaker 1:Because I hear the guy beside her go oh, I would have, I would not have taken a hit there, I would have stood. And she's like that's because I'm a risk taker, you're not a risk tech, I'm a risk tech, I like to. I take a lot of risk. She's like every time I go out with a man it's taking a risk, ain't that? Right, larry, I'm like you. Damn, you're rolling dice every time you go out with the guy, that is for sure. Yeah, I like him, I like you, I like you and just, you know that kind of the whole ride. You know this very, you know very fun, pleasant conversation. You know nothing, nothing out of the way or nothing weird or anything, just a really fun ride.
Speaker 2:I want to clear, I wanted some clarification. What is just a really fun ride? I want to clear, I wanted some clarification. What is actually too much? Tongue like I don't even know, like I would have been like okay, look, before I answer this, I need you to clarify what is too much like. Are you choking me with it, are you?
Speaker 1:yeah, yeah, it's one of those things, like you know, you don't know, like right off the. I mean, it was right off the bat right after we started, so I didn't have any kind of feel what the dynamics were. Uh uh, you know, bubba, she, I, you know, I didn't know at that. You know, when you're first out you don't know if she's starting and you don't know if they're in the middle of a fight and she's trying to piss him off. You know, you don't know right off the bat. So you kind of you know, I was kind of walking the fence there a little bit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you, uh. You wonder if they were having that conversation before you got in and they're like he. She wanted some clarification from you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, cause you know, that's just. It's not something that would just pop into my mind to ask. You know, ask a driver 15 seconds after I get in the car.
Speaker 2:I've done 10,000 rides and not one person has asked me if there's too much tongue, so like this is a unique question.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I mean I've done 15,000 and that's the first time, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's not something somebody regularly brings up, but maybe it should maybe, maybe it should be a topic.
Speaker 1:Maybe I should make a little post-it note and stick up on top of the tablet, you know. Question of the week.
Speaker 2:You know what? That's not a bad idea. I mean, it gets people thinking.
Speaker 1:It gets people talking. Yeah, it starts some conversation. I think, you have to make it like not too controversial, but make it a little edgy so it piques their interest. Yeah, it's got to be something that you know. It's not everybody's going to answer the same thing you. It's got to got to create some discussion.
Speaker 2:You know, yeah, you know faith. I was gonna be like, hey, just just ask chat gpt to create some questions for you yeah, create a not a conscious. You could like spell it out it'd probably give you like a hundred of them. Yeah, oh, I'm sure it'd be great so well that that's a good story. I like that when, when something's never happened before and there's no puke involved, like exactly yeah, because we get the same.
Speaker 1:You know five to seven questions like yeah, a gazillion times. You know, uh, is this your full-time job? How long you've been doing this? What's your funniest story? What's your worst pat? You know you get all, yeah, this is a question or whatever.
Speaker 1:So yeah, when somebody brings up something new or something like that, uh, and especially as it became clear that that they weren't in a fight or she wasn't trying to make him you know, that's just how, that was just her personality and uh, so yeah, that that you know, that kind of lightens your night up and and you're like, ah, this, this is good, this, this gives you some stamina to go a little longer right, to go drive a little bit more my irrational thing you brought up when, when you said when she said hey, driver, that fucking bothers me, like hey, what's your name?
Speaker 1:that would be see that that and that's why I clarified. I don't remember. She said hey, driver, hey, I think she said larry, yeah, pretty, but I mean just in general, when people are trying to get your attention.
Speaker 2:Like I'm like listen, bitch, I'm a human being, you know what I mean. Like even with my bus kids. I have kids that I had all year and they would say bus driver. Listen, my name is literally up on the top. It says mr jason. Stop calling me bus driver, I will throw your ass out at the next stop well, I just, I, you know, just call them passenger. Yeah, they wouldn't get it though, bratty kid, yeah, it's not, no, I mean that?
Speaker 1:I mean in the ride show. Yeah, the kids wouldn't get it, but but in the ride, yes, passenger uh all right. Well, that was good, that was a good story, thanks for sharing that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was fun uh, gig economy in the news, larry, we're uh, we want, we want the ai, we don't want the humans driving us around.
Speaker 1:No, no, and you know, um, it's funny because, uh, you know, this is kind of two sides of, there's two sides of this coin, but uh, this story specifically is about, uh, waymo in atlanta, and there's a percentage of people there who are ordering Ubers because in Atlanta, waymo is not using their own app. They're using, they're getting rides through the Uber app, and so these people are ordering Ubers and they're declining them when they get one that's driven by a human because they want a Waymo car. And so they interviewed this guy one guy, nate Gailisick, I think that's how you pronounce his name and he said said that you know, the Uber app kept pairing him with human drivers, even though he had, you know, select the option that indicates he preferred to have a Waymo. Uh, I said eventually, you know, it matched him with a Waymo. So he said now, uh, it's almost like a game to me. He said, uh, on average, when he orders an Uber, now it takes you about, he declines or cancels on about 20 human drivers.
Speaker 2:Who's got time for that shit?
Speaker 1:He does, apparently, and because he said he's done about 35 rides so far in Waymo cars. But yeah, he makes a game out of it and see how many he has to cancel before he gets a Waymo.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so a lot of places like Phoenix and San francisco. Waymo has its own app, so you have to worry about that. You know you're gonna get a waymo car right, um, but here they're. They're actually going through the uber app. Um. But he said you know he he's, he works as an assistant director for tv and film. Uh, he said he usually drives home after a long day on the set. Um, he said he's, he's waited for the day. Dreamt on the set. Um, he said he's, he's waited for the day. Dreamt about the day when I could. He could just pass out, go to sleep on the way to work and back where he didn't have to worry about it and doesn't have to worry about getting judged by the driver.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You know, um, yeah, yeah. So, um, I talked to several, several different people there in Atlanta who are doing the same thing and we were always wondering you know, how long is it going to take people? Are there going to be people who are really against taking a Waymo? But this is the opposite end of that spectrum. These are people who don't want anything but the Waymo.
Speaker 2:So I mean, we've talked about it before with the safety issues, I mean not with, like, car crashes, but, like you know, creepers and stuff like that. And yet I just watched a video today on Reddit. The Uber driver was driving a Tesla, you dozing off. You know what I mean. Like really, you know so, and I ain't judging them because, like I mean, I don't think I've ever dozed with a passenger in the car, but we all get sleepy driving sometimes, yeah, with a passenger in their car, but we all get sleepy driving sometimes, yeah, but I'm just saying, like, those kind of things we can eliminate if we don't have a driver. Yeah, I mean not that I don't want to promote getting rid of income for people, but also, you know, I don't know, I mean it's.
Speaker 1:It's nice to have a choice. If you want the, if you want the way most and you know she's the way most but if you want a human driver, then there's going to be plenty of those available as well.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I think for a long time we're going to have human drivers and I think self-driving is going to replace some of the food delivery too. I just think you know.
Speaker 1:Sure.
Speaker 2:Although people will get so lazy that they won't want to go down to the car to get the food, because I don't know a robot that's. They won't want to go down to the car to get the food They'll want cause there, I don't know a robot that's going to be doing that. You're not going to have an autonomous car and a robot that's going to I mean, maybe like a hundred years faster than you think.
Speaker 2:Yeah. But I mean they're going to have a robot and an autonomous car and he's going to get oh God, if I, if, god, if I, if, if we see that in my lifetime, I'm gonna say my, my ancestor, or my, like, my kids and their kids and they're, they're doomed, they're fucking doomed if we got robots driving and then actually getting out of the car delivering the food well, I mean, it's no different than us getting out of the car and delivering the food.
Speaker 1:The people don't?
Speaker 2:you know they don't have to get out now I guess I was making the point like it'll be fine because people get lazy and they don't want to come to the car. And then I'm like, oh shit, what if they put a robot in there that gets out and carries it up to the door then? Then we're screwed, yeah well, yeah as drivers. Yeah, yeah, you better find. Well, I'm not gonna have to worry about it yeah, I think I think about my job as a school bus driver.
Speaker 2:I'm like I don't think that would ever get replaced. I mean maybe autonomous driving, but there would still be an adult on the bus. They would have to be.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and the waiting, I mean a bus driver. That's such a specialized situation because you have to let the kids get off.
Speaker 2:You have to wait a different amount of times.
Speaker 1:There's so many variables that you're looking at. I think it would take a while before people would feel comfortable with an autonomous bus.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, or school bus, what about that? Can I say 100 years for that.
Speaker 1:No, I don't think it'll take that long, oh my gosh, you're saying less than that for that. Oh yeah, the speed with which AI is changing everything is. I think it's hard for us to even grasp how fast things are changing.
Speaker 2:Well, if you really look at something, when I say 100 years, right, so it's 2025. So 100 years ago was 1925. I don't think they had the car out yet. Was the Model T like the early 30s? No, maybe it was in the 17s, I think it was in the teens, I think so maybe they had a car out, but I mean nothing much first practical gasoline-powered automobiles 1885 that's bullshit. That didn't happen. The standard, the standard for automobile, is henry ford's model t put that he was a standard for mass production oh, okay, sorry he wasn't, he didn't invite, he didn't invent the car.
Speaker 2:Yeah let me. Yeah, I should have clarified that. Mass production, yeah, yeah, but way to bust my fucking conversation, larry, I'm just trying to make a point and you're like no, no, 1,800. Crushed, I guess. My point is it could happen. Look at the technology. I mean, can you imagine the people before the Great Depression? You give them a smartphone, they're like here, this is people from India or Australia and they're like what are those places? Yeah, I mean, they wouldn't even know.
Speaker 1:Reference point yeah, I mean I'm still and I'm sure you remember too. But I mean I remember when making a phone call to my cousins in in the next, in Indiana, the next next state over, was a big deal because it was long distance. Right, you know you had to pay long distance.
Speaker 2:It was a special time so we didn't get to do that. That was yeah, that was a big deal.
Speaker 1:So I I agree with you a hundred years is gonna be a hundred years it would be so cool to be able to see what I don't think we would even recognize much of a life day-to-day life.
Speaker 2:I mean yes and no. I mean I know this is not the topic, but like, even the highway system hasn't changed much though, Like I mean they've added, the highway system wasn't even here. I know, but my point is it's like I don't know.
Speaker 2:Anyways, moving on, we're not going to, but I'm just saying to wrap up my point 100 years is a lot of tech. Yes, a lot, a lot, a lot, a lot of tech. So, all right, this is exciting for me. I did a TikTok about it. This is from a customer side no more backdoor deliveries. Or side. It says please update delivery location to further enhance driver safety. Deliveries will no longer be made to the side porches or backdoors. Please update your delivery preference to an available option using the link provided below. If you do not select a new location by august 31 2025, deliveries will be automatically be made to your front door. So, um, that's not mine. I saw it on reddit. But on the customer side, I think this is amazing. Yeah, I don't follow the rules much. Anyways, if it's dark, if it's light out, like all my Kalamazoo stuff, if it said backdoor, I walked back there. I'm fine in the broad daylight.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's a whole different story when it's dark, yeah a whole different story.
Speaker 2:When it start, yeah, um and so. Oh, man, the discussion on the tiktok is like well, my front door is actually my side door and blah, blah, blah. I'm like no, bro, like let's, let's calm down and that's amazon flex uh, it's gonna be both. I mean dsp and amazon flex. Sorry, did I not clarify that?
Speaker 1:well, but let's just clarify.
Speaker 2:Oh sorry, I thought, yeah, maybe without the the context of the picture, but, um, yeah, it's amazon, that was from the customer side, so I would assume it would be flex and the dsps. We kind of do everything hand in hand. We're we're basically just like them, but we're independent contractors and they're employees. That's all it is. Um, so I think it's good. Uh, I think it's a safety thing. I mean, I'm not going to a back door in the middle at late at night or at four in the morning, like I've had that request on food delivery for at night oh yeah no, no so what's gonna happen in?
Speaker 2:and I this is my opinion that people are still going to complain, but I don't think we're going to get dinged for it.
Speaker 2:Right, they're going to be like well, I said, put it in the back. Well, sir, we don't do that anymore for safety reasons. You know what I mean. So I mean I've rolled up. I did a couple of like 3.30 am ones back when they first came out and like 3.30 am back when they first came out and I rolled up this motherfucker sitting on his porch, like passed out, at like 4 in the morning, like it was on the weekend, like I mean what happens if he's just sitting there with a pistol in his hand and he just wakes up and he's like what the fuck you doing? Boom, boom. You know what I mean. But during the day time I can see what's going on and make you know a decision on where to put the package and stuff like that. So I think this is great. I think it's going to piss a lot of people off as customers, but oh, I'm sure it will, but you know, let's get over it.
Speaker 2:I'd be, I'd be mad, I'd be surprised. How many like is it? 80 percent have a front door and they're fine with it, and it's like 20 that are gonna have you know an issue with it?
Speaker 1:I don't know, yeah, and I I can't imagine being a customer and asking somebody to come deliver something to my back door at you know, 3 am, yeah, but you're reasonable.
Speaker 2:Well, apparently, in some things I guess me too, and I don't want anyone poking around in the back. Anyway, no, no, no, I see somebody poking around in the back.
Speaker 1:Anyway, no, no, no, I see somebody poking around in my backyard. You know, if I wake up, I'm half asleep, even if I told them to come back there. If I'm in a sleep fog man, I'm liable to start popping off, right well you don't remember that you ordered that thing.
Speaker 2:Like I even tell megan and I do it too like if I I'll get next day, I don't pick the 4 am time slot, I pick after that because I just don't want to hear it at that time. No, no, you know. Uh, you know, waking my dogs up um let's see, see, someone said no, sorry, I was on tiktok, my bad yeah, I'm reading the comments there too, oh, there's a.
Speaker 2:There's a bunch of them I didn't really notice. Apologize for that. No one says I'm a night owl okay, well, that's good. What does that have to do with the delivery?
Speaker 1:oh yeah, yeah, he's usually up, so he's, he's oh, I see, yeah ready and waiting for the delivery yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean, if you're, yeah, that's great, schedule it for that time, if you're. If you're up, that's fine. Fine, I think. In general I just don't want to fuck with dogs and stuff like that. So Steve's spamming in the live here when this live is over, I'll be pod bean going over some topics. Be pod bean, be on pod bean. Oh my God, steve, don't make me ban your ass.
Speaker 2:Jeez, you didn't even ask the ban hammers coming down um, so yeah, either way, I think this is a a good fit for everyone, for the customer. If you don't like it, then fucking order from walmart, I don't know. Uh, all right, larry, ride share drivers, we're getting paid. I did not read this one, so I'm interested to.
Speaker 1:I try to read them some when we start, but yeah, before I start, though, do you think, you think, uh, you think we'll start to see uh, walmart follow suit where they're not delivering to, to back doors or side doors, or I do.
Speaker 2:I mean I, I don't know maybe, although we don't typically do. Uh, sorry, just comment. I don't think he would, but I don't think I would.
Speaker 1:I would spam it one way to find out I'd ask him you, steve, you asked for forgiveness.
Speaker 2:Like absolutely fucking go watch steve's show.
Speaker 1:God, definitely, definitely. We appreciate steve a lot. He's a huge supporter of the show.
Speaker 2:We appreciate him very much, yes, for sure. Uh, no one's on tiktok says sounds dangerous. Yeah, it's, it's dangerous. Oh, back to the walmart. I think a lot of deliveries happen during daytime hours. I don't think it's that big of a deal, and I think it's I. I mean, maybe they would. I don't know, I don't really care at this point. I'm just glad, um, that they started what we talked about last week, where they got the geo fence now to keep all the like campers away from the pickup spots. Um, yeah, I'm happy about that.
Speaker 1:So yeah, no one on tiktok said uh order, order duct tape and shovels for a 3 am.
Speaker 2:I mean that would be odd from amazon. Although you don't really know what it is, I don't know. Can you get? Can you order a shovel from amazon? Oh yeah, like, how does it come though? Oh, probably just in a long box, right? Yeah, yeah, you know, they'll box up just anything I know, but some of that stuff they send without a box, yeah.
Speaker 1:You can buy furniture on there.
Speaker 2:Well, that comes in like a bigger truck, but I'm just like, oh yeah, I guess you can Big old shovel $25. Why did I think they wouldn't do it? But yeah, that would be a weird, that'd be a weird delivery. You'd be like what's happening?
Speaker 1:All right, so let's move on before we get stuck here on Josh's only fans.
Speaker 2:I'm in, send me the link.
Speaker 1:All right. So this story is about a big settlement happened in Massachusetts. So, yeah, ride share drivers are going to get their share of $175 million in restitution. So they had a big lawsuit there. That got settled. Um, it was between Uber, lyft and the state attorney general's office. It was about the same things that we see the lawsuits everywhere whether they're supposed to, whether they should be employees, whether they're getting screwed out of benefits, whether they should have a guaranteed hourly wage. So, out of $175 million that's going to be distributed to drivers, uber paid $148 million and Lyft paid $27 million and it says that, yeah, what a discrepancy there. It says most drivers who drove more than eight miles per week from July 2020 to July 2024 are entitled to a payment. I wonder if you have to have driven every single week or if it's just an average there.
Speaker 2:I mean they had the data.
Speaker 1:if you've driven, so, yeah, it says close to 70,800 drivers should receive checks. Close to 70,800 drivers should receive checks. Uh, and under this new settlement, along with the money they're getting, drivers are now going to receive a minimum of $33 and 48 cents an hour for time that actually spent driving to pick up passengers and taking them to their destination.
Speaker 2:Where is this?
Speaker 1:It was Massachusetts.
Speaker 2:Holy shit.
Speaker 1:So this will increase annually by 30% or the rate of inflation. Agreement also guarantees paid sick leave, access to health insurance, stipend and occupational accident insurance. And also last year, massachusetts voters granted ride-share drivers the ability to unionize the new app. Drivers Union has about 70 000 members and uh is a big player, they say, in the opposition movement against the autonomous vehicles of course, yeah, but just to clarify that's active time.
Speaker 2:Um, yes, yeah, so if you do, a 10 minute drive, you're not getting 33 dollars, it's whatever that is divided by 10 minutes. I'm not doing that, um, but uh, it's still a lot Like if you stayed like. Think about it this if you were on a Friday night from nine P to two a, you're, you know you're back to back rides, I mean you're making 33 bucks an hour, plus they get a stipend for like to buy healthcare and shit Like that's wild.
Speaker 1:I'm trying to do the math here. I know I know I was trying to do it while you're talking no-transcript. So that would be, you know, the, the, the amount. What'd they say? They're 175 million divided by 70,000 drivers, that's about $2,471. Okay so, okay yeah, bubba Sue, thank you yeah.
Speaker 2:Steve, thanks for the super chat. If you agree Josh is a troll, then smack that Like yeah, yeah, smack it. Baby Bubbba, sue, thank you, she knows the rules.
Speaker 2:No math in the show she does josh says it's not all, it's not all that good for drivers, though I mean what? What do you mean by that? Because to me, if it's, you know, especially if you're, if you're driving in bowling green, grand rapids, michigan, wherever you're driving in Bowling Green, grand Rapids, michigan, wherever you're not making $33.40 an hour, you know you're not Like. I'm just saying, even if you could stay busy, Not consistently.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean just take the hypothetical where you were busy from 9 to 2. You're not making $33 an hour, not anymore. No, I mean back in the day maybe. So I don't think it's all that horrible. But that's just me. I mean, I don't want to be an employee, but if they're going to give me this you know where I get a stipend for health care and all this other shit. I mean I'm not going to say no to it. Sure, I mean, but I also don't want to lose my ability to go on the app where I can. If that locks it out, like New York did, I will have a problem with that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah. That just creates a lot of problems when they start locking them out like that.
Speaker 2:Peter, larry, remind Jason the rule is he's supposed to read the articles before the show and do that math, brother. What's up, pete? You tellete, you telling I gotta go up. Traveler said I just got a shovel in the box. I, I, I, really I have. I want to know the story. I assume it came in a box. I knew it wasn't going to be foldable but, like in my head, I have gotten stuff where that's not, stuff where it can't be boxed, but they have like a shipping label on it. I know it sounds stupid, but I just go to my Home Depot or Lowe's and get a shovel, but anyways, that's funny, steve, shoveling a box is better than getting D in a box. I mean, it depends on who you ask.
Speaker 1:I mean ask John, he got a whole box of them yeah, I mean, and he thoroughly enjoyed him.
Speaker 2:Yeah, just depends on who you ask that's all right, thank you for that. We're not getting into that, so we don't care. Um, I do feel at some point before we die we're getting gonna get some lawsuit, uh, for something they're going to be like. In Michigan were you a ride share driver from 2000,. Whatever, it was 8 to 2016? I don't remember. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I mean odds are it's going to happen?
Speaker 2:Yeah for sure. Traveler too lazy? Oh, I'm the worst traveler. I fucking order everything so I don't have to go to the store. All right, I'm the worst traveler. I fucking order everything, so I don't have to go to the store. All right, this is another Amazon thing and I thought this was interesting. This is request your standing history in the Amazon Flex app. The standings feature in the Amazon Flex app gives you information about your recent delivery history so you know where your deliveries stand against program expectations and how you can continuously improve while delivering with Amazon Flex. Starting today, you can request a full record of your standing history, including all delivery issues that have contributed to your standing, your eligibility to deliver with Amazon Flex to date, and that explains how.
Speaker 2:So I guess it's kind of cool. I haven't requested it. I think it's good to look at. The only problem is I mean, I look at it when they send it to me, but there's nothing you can do about it, right? I mean, I recently got dinged because they said we would really love you to deliver all your packages. Well, I delivered. Some customer reported that they didn't get their package. Like what the fuck? You saw me scan it.
Speaker 1:You saw me at the house what'd you think I did with it?
Speaker 2:yeah, I took a picture. Yeah, it's in your servers and they dinged me. I looked at my rating. It went down and that stays there for like 30 days or or maybe it's uh, every 500 deliveries or 100 deliveries, like like every package. But I'm just saying right, I did everything right, I left it. It's not my fault. They reported it, but but so I'm. I guess my point is requesting the history doesn't really mean much other than like just more information yeah, yeah, it's just.
Speaker 1:I mean it's the same thing with our, you know, driver ratings. You can look and see the one stars or the three stars, whatever you've gotten, but you can't really do much about it well, at least with the flex app it says why you're getting dinged.
Speaker 2:Like you know, didn't deliver it, or?
Speaker 1:yeah, so at least you have some information a few reasons.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and you can appeal it too. Yeah, uh, they'll tell you to get bent, but you can at least appeal it. So, yeah, uh, some amazon drivers have people fall behind. Yeah, I know, I know they're I. We definitely have seen that that is. That is not uh uncommon to hear yeah, we've played videos on here.
Speaker 1:We played one last week of people stealing the food delivery driver, stealing amazon package or assuming it was amazon package yeah, porch, I guess.
Speaker 2:My point is, though, amazon has all the data that I did deliver it. Why am I getting dinged for this? Like tell the customer, like oh, we're sorry, we'll take care of it, but don't tell the driver anything, like he fucking did it. You see the picture, unless they're not. They can't look at it. It only goes to the customer. I don't know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean you could be one of those delivery people. You lay down the heck, take a picture and then you pick it back up and walk off with it.
Speaker 2:That's a good point. I never thought about that. Because we don't think like that I know we don't do that we don't do that? Yeah, I don't even think like that.
Speaker 1:I don't know what it says about me that I thought of that, but that's for another discussion.
Speaker 2:Well, we know your background. We know you were a hell raiser when you were younger, that's what they say. All right, larry. Amazon grocery delivery expansion?
Speaker 1:I hope yeah, so Amazon has tried numerous times to have success with delivering fresh food and groceries. They've tried partnering with a bunch of different companies, but it was just clunky. You had to go through different apps. There was different fees depending on who you ordered with. Amazon tried rolling out their own app. That didn't go so well. So now they're trying again, says.
Speaker 1:They're rolling out same-day delivery of fresh food to over 1,000 cities, which is a pretty big move. They say it's their most significant grocery expansion ever. Now you can order perishable food items like milk, meat, seafood, right alongside with your shovel that you're ordering from Amazon. Whatever else you order from Amazon, you can do it all at one time. So it says it's like I said over the past, it partnered with a lot of local grocery stores and, like Amazon, fresh and whole foods, but it just didn't work out. Uh, it was too clunky. Um, so now in these locations you know these thousand locations that they're going to be doing uh, you can have same day delivery and it's going to be free if you're a prime member and you order over $25. It has a $2.99 fee if the order doesn't meet that $25 minimum. If you don't have a Prime subscription, you can use the service for a $12.99 fee with no order minimum, and it says they're going to try to expand it to 2,300 cities by the end of the year and more places in 2026.
Speaker 2:So they did trial it yeah, I think the story correlates. We talked about either last week or the week before, when we were talking about remember I read that one I was kind of confused there that you're going to be delivering food with their package, like it was like a whole foods thing or something like that. Yeah, I think this is what this is about yeah, yeah, I think I think you're right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's a, that's a good uh. Yeah, that's a good comeback on that story that we we did earlier yeah, I think this is what it is, so that that is interesting.
Speaker 2:So you're gonna get your shovel and a gallon of milk or something like that, I mean you get thirsty digging them holes I mean as long as it's packaged appropriately, like I in my head I'm imagining like, uh, plastic grocery bags like from walmart. You know what I mean. I'm like, oh god, this is gonna be a nightmare. You got a bunch of boxes and like eggs sliding around. I assume it's gonna be packaged appropriately. Yeah, did they list any of the markets? By chance or not, I know it's a thousand.
Speaker 1:So yeah, I just said a thousand. They may. They didn't in this story. They maybe you may be able to find it online somewhere, um, but it does not.
Speaker 2:It does not say it in the story here okay, yeah, well, I'm excited for that because, honestly, amazon has tried to get into the grocery game. They have amazon fresh and and and I don't know why it hasn't worked, because they want to be walmart and walmart's got the the niche for for food delivery right now for groceries yeah, I'm just happy because you know, bezos got married.
Speaker 1:He's got to support this wife in the style she's accustomed to. So, uh, you know, I'm glad he can. Hopefully he'll make a little money I hope so.
Speaker 2:I hope he takes good care of her. So, uh, steve order shovel, plastic wrap a lime and rope you have the line the random lime we we just uh, we just talked about that yeah, but I mean just having the the different things, the shovel like, because you can get food and other stuff. That's the whole point of it. So, yeah, uh, all right, 33 an hour if you wanted well, depends on what kind of lime he's talking about.
Speaker 1:Is it lyme? Because lime to dissolve the body good, very good clarification.
Speaker 2:You're right if it's lime to dissolve the body that's what he was thinking. Okay, okay, my bad, I'm watching too much.
Speaker 1:Dexter, you can tell.
Speaker 2:Right. So New York City is the new place that these robo-taxis are coming. I'm not sure why they're asking for people, or maybe this is just what the title you know. They're just talking about it because there are so many hoops they have to jump through to get through new york, uh, to get permission to do all that. Uh, the gig pays 33 66 an hour, but not all drivers will be paid the same. A test operator one can make between 25, 25 and 27 60 at an hour. Base pay will test operator two drivers earn between 28, 75 and 30 60 an hour.
Speaker 2:Base minimum wage for large employers in New York City is $16.50, which is hilarious, by the way, in New York. It's hilarious for Michigan. Anyone working afternoon or night shifts makes 10% more and it would bring your base pay to $33.66. So it looks like it's going to be a flexible schedule, like Tuesday through Saturday or Sunday through Thursday, maybe some weekend times, obviously, and maybe some nighttime shit like that. But Tesla is also hiring test drivers in other cities. There's links already posted for those Texas, florida and California. So there was something in this article that I oh, okay, hold on, uh, cause you know that you're going to chuckle at this. It's down at the end Shit, I don't know. I'll just I won't do it verbatim, but basically he says that, uh, most, the most of the country is going to have autonomous driving by the end of the year yeah, yeah, I remember reading.
Speaker 1:I know I he, yeah, he's so over promises under I do you're supposed to go the other way?
Speaker 2:I know I'm just like no, you've said so many things before and it's just falling flat. So no, that's, that's not gonna happen. Um, I don't know, yeah, I, yeah, I don't know, I don't know why he would because he's stupid, he doesn't, he doesn't have a I mean, does he have a pr director? Because, like, they're clearly just a worthless because, or or he just tells him to shut up and he just does what he wants yeah, just fires him and gets another one, I guess.
Speaker 1:But uh yeah, apparently things are moving ahead with his project in nashville, though yeah, have you seen uh drivers in like, are they in? Sorry, no, this was the tunnel, the tunnel that they're building. They're building a tunnel in Nashville. Yeah, I told you that we did that story. Maybe it was the week you're off. Yeah, they're doing one of his boring company.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know he has that, yeah, he has a tunnel.
Speaker 1:He's done one in Las Vegas, so they're doing one from the Nashville airport to downtown. Yeah, it's going to be a loop.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And it's going to be one of those high-speed trains Well, basically no, it's just a tunnel and it has Tesla cars in it.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, sorry, I was on the fact that it was going to be like a high-speed train underneath there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we can't have high-speed trains in America. I don't know.
Speaker 2:Larry, do I look like a fucking geologist?
Speaker 1:I don't know. No, I'm just saying I first. Our government is so screwed up. They have bullet trains in japan that go 250 miles an hour and we, we can't you know we can't dude, we for some reason we can't figure it out.
Speaker 2:We're so ass backwards on so many things it's wild, but yeah, it's gonna be.
Speaker 1:I'm I'm interested to see how well it goes, because there's a lot, you know. I mean there's, of course there's, you know, there's a lot of people opposed to a lot of controversy. Yeah, a lot of controversy, but uh, you know there's a republican governor and he's kind of giving him the go-ahead okay um, so is it a done deal and they're gonna start soon, or I mean? They announced it a few weeks ago and next thing you know they're having a ribbon cutting and uh, it sounds like it's okay it sounds like they're moving ahead I mean, how do you, how do you prepare for something like that?
Speaker 2:the amount of red tape, of like you got utilities around you got god damn, that's why you go underground. Yeah, but you still have utilities underground, unless you go below this.
Speaker 1:This tunnel is way under what any utility is.
Speaker 2:Oh really.
Speaker 1:It's down there like 30 feet or something. It's under under any utilities. How many miles is it going to be? I mean, I'd have to look and see. It's probably like I don't know 15 miles or something.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, dude, that's exciting. I would be dope, I'd be excited if that was happening in my city.
Speaker 1:Honestly, yeah, I mean I don't know how long it's going to take to build, but I'll try it out In the next hundred years It'll be done. If it gets done, I'll say it'll be done in two years.
Speaker 2:All right, sounds good. Waymo in the news. All right, got an 11-second video about Waymo. I don't know. They're trying to change lanes. They love each other. I don't know, of course trying to change lanes, they love each other. I don't know. Of course the music. Get out the way.
Speaker 1:Get out the way bitch get out the way.
Speaker 2:Oh, bitch get out the way, get out. Yeah, they're basically stunt drivers man yeah, you know, going back and forth at least they use their blinkers.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, they do you know the one we saw? The one we saw, uh what?
Speaker 2:a week or two ago, where it made the illegal left turn you know, he had his blinker on, had his blinker on, he let everyone know, yeah, that's good he was turning right doing a legal left turn.
Speaker 1:Just so you know right, right for sure.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh. Um, I don't know like that stuff doesn't bother me, it's just just more fun now, it's just fun.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it is fun to watch him. Do you know?
Speaker 2:just interesting things For sure I'm going to skip the ad part of it. I'll jump into the Lyft shares soaring today. I don't know, because I was just in my stash looking at it and I didn't see it was soaring to me.
Speaker 1:Well, this was a few days ago. This was on the 15th, so five days ago. So yeah, lyft shares jumped 9.5% in the afternoon session and the reason that they jumped is because its co-founders said they're stepping down from the board.
Speaker 2:Really.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's exactly what happened. Yeah. Yeah, the co-founders, of course, you know they're not running the company now, true, but they are on the board so they do have influence. I said they're going to exit the board in August, so, like this month, wow, it's been, it's been planned, so it's not something out of the blue. It was that they had. It's been planned, so it's not something out of the blue. They had a two-year transition plan where they stepped down on the board and then now they knew they were going to be leaving the board and they're also selling a bunch of shares. So now they have, of course, their owners. So they had this special class B shares. They're going to convert those to regular shares, so there's not going to be two class of shares for them. So it's going to be equal voting rights for all the shareholders, which is always a good thing, um. So, yeah, some people say this is a good thing and people seem to be pretty pumped about it. I said the stock was up uh, 9.5% that afternoon.
Speaker 1:A lot of people I know Lyft's stock has been pretty much trash yeah um well, I you keep reading a lot of people, a lot of people are talking about buying lyft.
Speaker 2:You know it's got, it's got potential I mean I don't know understand why the those two. I mean I understand why it can fluctuate a market or a brand if there's big movement, but I don't know how this would make it better with those two leaving I don't know.
Speaker 1:I think people may make. Yeah, you know you, people might want to think they've been there too long. It's could be, fresh blood. Yeah, you might like what? What reichner's doing? You know the new ceo um, who knows?
Speaker 2:yeah could be a multitude of things, but I I understand why it flex. I'm just like, okay, these guys already, it's not like it's a surprise, it's not like they they emailed that morning like we're done yeah, and it's, it's, uh, it's all perspective.
Speaker 1:You know you, you can you'll have half the analysts to say, okay, this is a reason, uh, to buy, another half to go.
Speaker 2:Oh, this is reason to sell, and they don't care what you do, because they make money when you trade, so they just want you to do something right, uh, josh, you know they're like get rid of dar, get rid of, uh, david, risher or rishner or whatever it is. Yeah, you just hate him because he ain't doing what you want. It doesn't matter who's in there. You know what I mean if he was is if they were doing something great would you want? I mean, I guess that's obvious, if they were good you'd want to keep them in there, but I don't know, I I don't. I think dar yeah, bubba, sue, I was gonna say I think dar is worse. I think he's kind of a dirt bag. He just seems like a dirt bag.
Speaker 1:I need to bring back. Uh, what's his name?
Speaker 2:oh, that guy. That guy was a dirtbag. God what was his name? I don't know oh, Travis.
Speaker 1:Travis yeah.
Speaker 2:Travis Colonisque. Okay, yeah, something like that.
Speaker 1:A little detour. Have you ever watched the movie Founder about Ray Kroc?
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, my son and I watched together okay, I watched it with with my uh.
Speaker 1:Uh. I took every couple weeks I'll take food down to my mom and pop and uh watch movies and stuff with him for a little bit, and we watched that one last night. Man, that dude was an ass, oh dude it's shady, oh, he screwed the heck out of the mcdonald brothers yeah you've never seen that movie, watch it it's.
Speaker 2:It's pretty good it's really good it's it's. You think mcdonald's was the og, but it it. It kind of is a little little dirt behind there it will make you feel sorry for the mcdonald brothers yeah, for sure, for sure. Yeah, that guy was shady he was. He was, uh, all right, moving on, giant nagging mosquitoes. Uh, this is a drone one that I actually gave to me. I don't, I can't believe I did that. Um, it's not, it really. Oh, what happened to my website?
Speaker 1:sorry, it's some what are you doing with that steve? Yeah, um, I've watched, super pumped, I think.
Speaker 2:I think jason has I watched a little bit of it, but I didn't watch the whole thing.
Speaker 1:I enjoyed it. I enjoyed watching it.
Speaker 2:Okay, so obviously one thing I didn't know about is these drones have been for delivery, have been around for a while. We talked about, I think Larry and I with Zipline, which works with Walmart. We talked about, I think, larry and I with.
Speaker 2:Zipline, which works with Walmart. They were delivering a bunch of stuff in Rwanda in 2016 and launched a drone delivery to households in Iceland in 2017 with DoorDash. So it's been around for a while, but I guess there's been a lot of like red tape and finally, sure they just ruled the faa ruled uh that they can use these drones without line of sight now, so that is a huge change.
Speaker 2:That's a huge change. So now they're starting to ramp it up. Um, you know, they've been kind of just treading water a little bit with it, but, um, unlike traditional drones, they can. Wings Drones can carry packages two and a half pounds up to 12 miles. One pilot can oversee up to 32 drones. Zipline has a drone that can carry up to four pounds and fly 120 miles round trip. Some drones, like Amazon's, can even carry heavier packages. Obviously, the pros the unmanned aircraft offers reduced emissions, improve access to goods for rural residents. Um, so this this is the cons is what I want to focus on.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I highlighted this. Yeah, so uh. University of Missouri, st Louis, supply chain instructor. I'm not pronouncing that. It says it costs about 1350 per delivery to carry a package by drone, versus $2 for a traditional vehicle. Oh, you wrote that. You wrote that down.
Speaker 1:That's so sad. Yeah, that's huge. Yeah, that is.
Speaker 2:That's so expensive.
Speaker 1:And it's more than $2.
Speaker 2:Let's face it, I guess it is, if you know if somebody yeah, plus, drones need well-trained employees to oversee them and can have a hard time in certain weather and also can have midair collisions or fall from the sky. Blah, blah, blah. The worst part for them the noise. They can sound like a giant nagging mosquito.
Speaker 1:So again that $2, that must be like the operational cost of the car. I mean that's not counting what they're paying the driver.
Speaker 2:I think it is no $2?. I mean, well, they're getting their operational costs probably from the customer, you know, when they charge them the fees and everything. I think they're saying maybe I'm wrong, I could be wrong. I thought they were saying it costs DoorDash $2 because they have to pay out $2 for a driver to do it. I think that's what they're saying, oh man. Or are you saying what are you thinking they're saying?
Speaker 1:Well, it's just the operational cost of a vehicle, Like even if it was an autonomous car. It's $2 worth of whatever.
Speaker 2:Oh no, because they don't own the vehicle, though.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:They're only paying $2 for that driver to go. The driver has to take care of the maintenance. That's true. That's all his overhead. That's why it's ridiculous when you guys take deliveries for $2. Like, what are you doing? Value yourself a little bit, god about ready to go on a rant, rant, but I mean again, I could be wrong, but I think they're basically saying what? What doordash has to spend to get that mcdonald's delivered? It's two bucks because that's what they paid the driver. Yeah, everything else is on the driver so yeah, so yeah.
Speaker 1:So you think in our lifetime we're gonna, we're gonna be walking down this, you know, taking our nightly walk around the block, and they're just gonna be drones flying 100 dropping dropping off food and packages and I believe it.
Speaker 2:I believe that, more than this autonomous driving, because there's so much red tape with that and there's so many variables I mean, I guess there is variables with weather, with drones too, but I don't know I think you'll see drones a more regular thing than you're going to see, at least in my area. Then you're going to see, you know, autonomous cars.
Speaker 1:I just need to start up Larry's weed drone delivery program and that'll even take longer.
Speaker 2:I just need to start up Larry's weed drone delivery program. And that'll even take longer, Cause that's a legality thing there. I mean I can't imagine they're doing, they're not going to do booze that way.
Speaker 1:You got to ID. Yeah, you can't, you got to ID.
Speaker 2:And you got to ID in person. You can't be fricking.
Speaker 1:And that's one thing I noticed when I started doing the food delivery here, you know, recently, kind of turning on all my alcohol like uber eats alcohol, they're all they're. They're all like this. They're like two to three dollar is what they offer on them. I'm like, and I decline them. I'm like I'm not dealing with the hassle of having to scan somebody's id and all that for two to three dollars.
Speaker 2:See, the alcohol stuff that I see is usually pretty good because people are like they're tipping because they want.
Speaker 1:The only ones I've got have been yeah, all under four dollars.
Speaker 1:That's, that's crazy yeah, and it's not like it was right there. It was. You know, it was a couple miles for the delivery too, and I'm like there ain't no way. I'm going through that because I've I've just not had great experience with alcohol delivery. You know, you get the college kids. They have the fake IDs, or you get there and they're like, oh, you don't really need to see it, do you? I'm like, oh, you don't really need to drink this, do you? Yeah?
Speaker 2:I haven't had really a problem with it. I haven't had to deal with college kids Other than that one I took over fourth of july where the guy was like where, why didn't you leave it?
Speaker 1:here are you fucking stupid like why didn't you leave your money here, right like I?
Speaker 2:don't like. It's just the law, bro. Like, yeah, I'd leave it, if doordash let me, I would definitely leave it. I'm not gonna lie, I'd leave it, get the frick out of there. But you know, it's the freaking law and I, I don't want to get charged and b, I want to keep my job. So, yeah, get bent uh, last rule follower.
Speaker 1:What's that? Look at you being a real fire I try trust me for the most part uh last last topic ace pickleball.
Speaker 2:Another pickleball on door. I didn't we talk about this. I feel like the verbiage is different, but maybe we did.
Speaker 1:Well, we're going to talk about it again. If we did, if we did, cause I'm old enough to have forgotten about it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, same.
Speaker 1:So, anyway, yeah, this is a uh. This is uh another announcement of another collaboration with DoorDash. We've been talking, you know, over the past year. They are partnering with anybody and everybody, and this is a deal they've made with, um, a company called ace pickleball club. It's kind of a sounds like an upscale, very upscale pickleball club. So they've entered a multi-year partnership, uh, where doordash becomes the official on-demand delivery and pickup platform of ace pickleball club. So every club is going to have a designated delivery zone where they can, where members and guests can go and receive their orders. Uh also give them uh gives them access to a bunch of discounted promotions on deliveries, things like that. So, um, they also designate store dash as the multi-year sponsor of the members only ace pickleball club championship series, which is it's a competition that runs across all their locations and uh ends up. Uh ends in a national championship with a $250,000 prize pool.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So not bad. So here here's. Here's why I say this is an upscale club. It says the uh. This partnership reflects the company's focus on enhancing the member experience. The pickleball club promotes an all-day open play model on its professional grade courts, which are divided by skill level and are equipped with play site technology which provides instant highlight reels to players phones yeah, that's pretty common now oh, is it really?
Speaker 2:yeah, you can, you can you can get something for your just your rec games too. I don't know how accurate it is, but well, I looked at the picture that they got in there. I mean that's high, like I've been to a couple places, and they're like basically warehouse. They're not dumpy by any means, but it's not like beautifully lit up like this or, you know, painted very nice like this.
Speaker 1:Um, yeah, but so we have, uh, one indoor pickleball place. I've not heard anything about it yet. It used to be, um, it used to be like an indoor, a place where you could, um, you could pay and go um for, like little league players to get better, you know, take training on pitching or hitting and things like that, and I guess they weren't getting enough business. Our days think they would make a lot better money. They switched over to a pickleball facility.
Speaker 2:Indoor pickleball facility yeah, uh, there's a place I go in zealand same. It still has the pitching machine and stuff like that, but half of it they made pickleball courts. Yeah, yeah it's huge.
Speaker 1:Yeah, me and my wife, we keep, we keep wanting to play.
Speaker 2:We just haven't got around to it um, these higher end ones are are popping up too. There's one called pickle and pin, I think, by us, um, and yeah, it has like a bar and a restaurant and stuff like that oh yeah, it's supposed to be like top pickle instead of top golf yeah, yeah, basically basically yeah.
Speaker 2:So well, good old doordash always sticking their nose in everything, but hey, when you got the money, yep, all right folks, thank you so much for listening. What time is it? It is 8.02, so in eight minutes we'll be live. On the Patreon. You can go to patreoncom, slash the GigaCon podcast and there you can sign up for a seven-day trial. You can do it right now and you can see us again Right this second.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we got lots of stuff to talk about, lots of stuff. You have no idea. You have no idea, and we'll be back next week at Wednesday, at 7 pm. 7 pm Eastern 7 pm Eastern Larry, what do you got going on? I forgot the this weekend. Any work you got going on.
Speaker 1:I forgot the this weekend any work? Uh, this weekend I will, yeah, I'll be working, I imagine. Um, yeah, I don't have any out of town plans or anything. No traveling. Uh, see you later, pete. Uh, thanks for tuning in, um, yeah, so yeah, I'll be going out tomorrow night thirsty thursday and planning on probably working saturday as well uh, thursday, friday for me is white cap saturday.
Speaker 2:I'm actually going to the white caps with my family. Give us free tickets, so we finally did a game. Nice Sunday. I'm driving for old people, so I don't think I'll be doing any gig work this week.
Speaker 1:Hey, seth, seth's popping up for the very last second.
Speaker 2:He's like it's time change. He's like yeah, they're ready to go. It's like nope we're done.
Speaker 1:Word on Good. To see you, seth, all right. As always don't put up with anyone's bullshit. We'll see you on the road. All right, peace out. Bye, everybody. See you, seth. Take care man, come join the Patreon yeah.
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