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Lyft’s ‘Favorite Driver’ Feature + New Spark ID Verification | Ep 262
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We explore Lyft's new favorite driver feature and discuss how it only works for scheduled rides, limiting its usefulness for many drivers.
Ep 262 News Links
• Lyft's new favorite driver feature only works for scheduled rides
• Amazon Flex provides varied experiences, with some blocks containing very few packages
• Returning to rideshare work feels good, but pricing issues remain frustrating
• Lyft and Uber are known to lower prices when drivers attempt to accept rides
• A food delivery driver was caught on camera taking bites from a customer's order
• Spark is introducing photo verification to prevent account sharing or selling
• Amazon is changing Fresh blocks to include both tip and non-tip eligible orders
• Restaurant owners struggle with high delivery app fees, driving some to create their own apps
• Waymo autonomous vehicles still have glitches, including driving on the wrong side of the road
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Speaker 2:1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. Hello, hello. Welcome to the Gig Economy Podcast, episode 262. Larry, we both hit the music at the same time. I'm glad you remembered it. I was like I forgot to tell you at the beginning and then all of a sudden I heard it and I was like, oh shit, I quick shut mine off. Oh no, it stopped stopped that's all, good man.
Speaker 3:Oh, who knows?
Speaker 2:oh no, anyways. Uh, we're gonna talk about Lyft's favorite driver feature today and new spark id verification, which I'm kind of excited for honestly. Uh, thank you guys so much for joining. Go to gigcognomyshowcom for everything gig podcast related. And then, of course, the Patreon members. I want to thank our members Samson from Grand Rapids, bud Dickman from North Carolina, omar from Detroit, delivery Cats from Michigan, frank from Philly, tom from Chicago, jim from Connecticut, miguel from GR, linda from Tampa, jerry Gillette from Kentucky and Faith from Las Vegas. I would love for you to join the Patreon. Go to patreoncom. Slash thegigiconpodcast, get an extra podcast a week, exclusive piece of merch and all kinds of fun stuff. There's a $3 and a $7 tier that you can enjoy if you would like to. Also, we do have a Telegram group, which we've added a few people this week, and that's great to see. Larry, what the hell is a Telegram group?
Speaker 3:Yeah, so Telegram is just an app we use to communicate with each other. It's kind of like a texting app, but besides doing texts you can also do voice memos or video chats. So sometimes it's nice when you're out driving it's a lot easier to do a voice message than it is to try to type something out in a text. But you can talk to gig workers all over the world. Talk with people who know what you're going through, who are out there doing the same gigs and type of work you're doing, so they know the struggles and the joys that you go through and it's a great way to meet some people, not feel so lonely when you're out there working and doing good work.
Speaker 2:You know it's interesting, this little side story. I'll try to make it quick. But I have something wrong with my car, of course, and it's something to do with the OnStar module that goes bad. So I've lost GPS in my car. But what else I have lost is if I'm going through CarPlay, I cannot do. It doesn't pick up my mic on my phone or something. So I've had to use telegram to to communicate, which I do all the time. But I went to the dealer and the parts 400 okay already, like judas maude. They wanted 700 for labor to do that. I was like I'm good, I'm going to go to my regular mechanic, and he was like I've never done it, but I'm sure it's doable. And of course I looked it up and it seems doable. I think I could do it. But you need a little programmer, and so that's where, where they get it, and so, uh, but, yeah, somehow the mic is well.
Speaker 2:It's weird is because I can take a phone call and they can hear me, but if I try to do voice to text or a voice message or even use siri doesn't work.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's weird how that works because, um, yeah, mine's always been in in my cameras um, like, if I do try to do telegram, like if I have mine hooked up through through bluetooth you know, I can listen to music and stuff from my phone but if I try to do telegram, I could play about the first five or ten seconds of it and then it won't really yeah, interesting.
Speaker 2:Uh, justice, carplay is garbage. I love carplay. I mean it's. I love everything about it. It it's great, although Chevy got rid of CarPlay, so any car 2024 or newer does not have their own version in there. But anyways, that was my little side story. Please go ahead and follow us on TikTok. I see a few people have joined. Really appreciate you guys. If you want the full experience, go to YouTube and then you can get the slides and stuff like that. Currently we do not have enough followers to really integrate tiktok, so we'd love for you to uh, follow us on tiktok. And all right, stories from the road. I see, I. I see larry has something there I don't know.
Speaker 2:It says happy news and back in the saddle. So what do we got?
Speaker 3:so, yeah, you know, just back in the saddle. It's getting to be that time of year when the students are coming back, so I was out doing gig work this weekend. Uh, we were hoping to overlap a little bit so we could shoot the shit on telegram, but but you kind of, you took the day shift and I took the night shift I was gonna throw you under the bus, like I got done at like seven that night and you're like, yeah, I'll be out at 10.
Speaker 2:I'm like 10. Gabe and I are in our jammies.
Speaker 3:I know it, I know it, and I wasn't playing on standalone, but I was. I went to visit my friend of mine, took him and his wife some food the one who's had a bunch of. He had a really major surgery and so I went over and ended up hanging out with them for a couple hours and shooting the breeze, but did go out, uh and worked, uh, worked late hours again. It was good to get out, didn't really have a ton of college kids, but it was pretty steady, yeah. But, um, yeah, I'm, I'm gonna have to start slumming it, man, start doing more food delivery, because with this stuff up pricing, man, it's just not cutting it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean ride shares, just not cutting it well, the thing is that you're not using it for like. You're not paying your bills with it no, no, no so I mean, you can still do rides, you just have to do right.
Speaker 3:I mean I'll never. I don't, I don't think I'll ever. You know, if I'm doing gig work I'm not going to turn that off, but but I will probably integrate some more, try to do a little more food delivery and stuff well, I'll tell you good luck, because you know into my story there ain't shit cooking.
Speaker 3:Well, I mean gags like oh, I mean he was talking that night. He was like, yeah, I decided to turn it on, went out in three hours, made like $150 or whatever it was. I was like, damn, you know, you're right.
Speaker 2:I shouldn't say it, seen some of his orders he got. He got one today for 24 for one item at dollar general. Yeah, yeah, like what the fuck? Like? He showed me the screenshot, like I'm like what is?
Speaker 2:happening, he seems to have the best market out of all I know, because my starting with uh, yeah, bubble soup gig work is terribly so. Yeah, I started, uh, last week, um, and I kind of talked about this, the show. It was just so slow so I started doing Amazon and I really haven't looked back. Honestly, I wasn't planning on doing any gig work this week. I had quite a bit of old people moving and then I got white caps for the rest of the weekend, so I wasn't planning on it. But my trip today got canceled for the old people. So I ended up getting a four and a half, which is pretty standard.
Speaker 2:At the same day I don't see a lot of anything else. I'm sure there is, but uh, for 127, 124, something like that. And then I get there and I'm watching these carts come out, like they come out this door, yeah, and they're just now. When I say carts, they're just, they're I don't know they're about. They're taller than me and their walls on each side, and then the front can bend down once you need to go lower, full of the top packages and I'm like, oh boy, here we go, it's fine. I mean, it's just, it's a lot to pack in the car. All of a sudden they roll mine out. There's a package about this big in the cart.
Speaker 2:That's it, and then, some envelopes now, the envelopes they put in like a sack on the side. So I had seven packages, seven items seven.
Speaker 3:How long? For four and a half hours well.
Speaker 2:so I looked at my sheet and it said a three hours. So they must have run out of four hours or four and a half or something like that. But but I was pretty stoked. Now there still was 10 miles in between each stop, so it was still roughly, it was still a little bit of mileage, but yeah, it was done in two hours for 124 or whatever it was.
Speaker 3:Hey, that's not bad at all.
Speaker 2:Well, jamie, who's been on the show before I don't know if she's in the group anymore in telegram but she says they they'll like randomize the carts now because they don't want people to get like fussy. So now, like I mean literally the cart before that was stacked and then mine was small and then I looked back and the cart after that was stacked, so it's like they don't. I don't know, I don't know what it is they're just trying to make sure that no one gets fussy, they have a security guard there.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, because people get fucking livid. You know what I mean when they see something you know?
Speaker 3:yeah, but like man I'm, I'm delivering this and this dude gets seven packages. What the hell's going on?
Speaker 2:I know yeah, but sometimes they trick you though, because sometimes seven might be going. You're an hour and a half drive to your first stop, right, you do your seven and then an hour and a half drive back, so I could have I mean, I very well could have got screwed on that.
Speaker 3:So yeah, yeah, you never know yeah, for sure, hey, steve.
Speaker 2:So yeah, I just been doing flex and just kind of uh, I don't know kind of enjoying it. Did it? Did you kind of enjoy it when you got back in, like the ping and stuff like that? Yeah, I always do.
Speaker 3:It's weird because I'd done a little bit but not really knowing I was going to go out for several hours on a Saturday night. The stuff I'd done before was daytime. Yeah, it feels good to get back out there, driving around, seeing some of the college kids coming back in and knowing that things are getting ready to ramp up and football games will be going and all that kind of stuff. So, yeah, yeah, it definitely did feel good to get back out there, kind of in my territory.
Speaker 2:I guess, Except when each ride come up, you'll go oh what is this?
Speaker 3:Yeah, oh yeah. I want to talk about that too, cause I and I told you about this.
Speaker 3:So I'm out there and Lyft comes up and it's like their trip radar, whatever comes up and it pops up and it's this girl like I forget, like you know, katie or something, and it, and they tell you the estimate. You know how much it will be per hour 75, you know, 20, 75 cents or something per hour, yeah and yeah and um. So I usually don't take anything under 20 and and so you know, I clicked a match on it and it said matching in progress, you know, and then it, then it just goes away and then like a minute later comes up same person, same ride, for 17 something an hour and trying to. You know, it's a ping for me this time oh, and I'm like f you yeah doing it.
Speaker 3:That happened three times saturday night did it really yeah I'm like I'm not playing this game. I don't care what it is the second time you lower the price from when I try click to match on it, I'm not taking it yeah, it's, it's, it's the principle of it it is. Yeah, it really is. But yeah, I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 2:I pissed me off yeah, and honestly, people, I think lyft is preying on the people that need that money to pay their bills and they're like, well, I'm gonna take it, I you know.
Speaker 3:I guess it's three dollars less yeah, you're not paying attention yeah, that's his exact same ride and it's, you know, three dollars an hour less than it was, you know, a minute ago yeah, yeah, that's so shady, and uber does the same thing. Yeah, they do so. Yeah, that just pissed me off, but anyway, it was good to be back out.
Speaker 2:So before the upfront pricing came, you didn't know where you were going, like the old ways.
Speaker 3:We didn't know what our total price was. On Uber. We knew the general area we were going, but you didn't have any of that. They changed it so many times.
Speaker 2:Well, that's what I said.
Speaker 3:I think I thought before upfront pricing you had to be a certain tier to get that information you did yeah, and yeah, I was usually there, so I in that tier, so I mean I usually knew where I was going. But you know, they've changed like when we started out. Originally we didn't know anything yeah nothing, well, yeah got to where it would tell you like the general direction.
Speaker 3:It's like you're going approximately this many miles southwest or something like that. So you kind of got that and then they got to. Well, if you're the certain tier, you'll know where exactly where you're going. As far as you know the address and stuff.
Speaker 2:So uh, yeah, but you never got the price right, you, you just saw the ride, you no, we never got the price right.
Speaker 3:You just saw the ride. No, we never got the price, but I knew it was $1.17 a mile.
Speaker 2:So I mean I knew in my head yeah, that's true, you're doing quick math.
Speaker 3:We were going off the rate card back then. That's right.
Speaker 2:God, I can't even believe that was still a thing just recently. It's been so long since it's been that here.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I really wish they would change it back, but I guess they've really gone all in on the upfront pricing, because I guess Gabe's got that again now as well. I know they introduced it there and then they dialed it back and went back to the other way, but it's in force there now.
Speaker 2:Bubba Sue says we don't have upfront pricing here due to NYC laws. Huh, so you have the the. Is it rate card? It's not rate card. Or is it because they're hourly right, so maybe they don't even have rate card?
Speaker 3:it's just yeah, maybe not, I don't know. It gets confusing getting those oh, I know anyway, the uh, the other part. The happy news it's in that I put in there. Is you remember when I let my liftingwithlarrycom website, my domain name?
Speaker 2:Yeah, then it turned into a porno site.
Speaker 3:It turned into a porno site.
Speaker 2:Well, I got it back you did I did?
Speaker 3:Did you buy it back? No, no, I just put a tracker on it so it would email me once it was coming up again and I got home uh, from church sunday. Read my email it's like hey, it's available, jumped online, bought it well, yeah, you, now you got to build that thing out yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean I haven't done. I haven't really done anything with it yet. Um, it's just got a like you can pick a generic. They're like oh, if you're you pick the area or what industry you want, they actually had one for rideshare. So, really like oh, if you're you pick the area or what industry you want, they actually had one for ride share so really if you go to lift? Yeah, go to lifting with larrycom.
Speaker 3:you can see what it shows that's amazing yeah, it's pretty, pretty wild, but yeah, I'm gonna have to build that back out, but I was just happy to get back because there's so many like I start. I stopped handing out my cars because they had my website on the back, well, of course. And and I had like two or three people go hey, uh, you know, they got my card and I had them as a repeat writer like hey man, did you know your website?
Speaker 2:why would even someone even buy that for that like oh lifting, maybe because you know that you know?
Speaker 3:yeah, who knows? They buy all sorts of sites. You know some bot probably bought it, and then they just let it slide after two years.
Speaker 2:So did you have to pay just the $20, or what is it? Godaddy is roughly like $20 a year, oh yeah.
Speaker 3:I mean they had some kind of a sale. Oh, okay, the first year was like a penny or something. You know, oh really, yeah it, the first year was like a penny or something. Oh really, yeah, it was something crazy, it didn't matter.
Speaker 2:I was going to buy it, yeah, yeah. Well, that's great news.
Speaker 3:I'm happy for you Now, if you get your Instagram account back.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean, are you built up the second one?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean. So when I lost my Instagram, it was just lifting with Larry was my username, and so when they took it away and deleted it, I tried for about two months to get it back and never did so. Like I'm just gonna have to start over. So I started a new, brand new instagram account and they wouldn't let me use lifting with larry because they said that name's already taken. So I did lifting with larry too and, um, look, I still had most of my pictures, um, um, but I couldn't tag people in it, cause I didn't. I don't remember who they were.
Speaker 1:Lost all my followers and all that.
Speaker 3:And I kept trying and then eventually let me change it, take off the tune and it went back to Larry. But it's not the same, it's not the original account. It's the second one that I just renamed. That's annoying. Yeah, oh man, don't get me started on that.
Speaker 2:Goodness, all right, gig economy in the news, larry, like we talked about the favorite feature and we were both super excited about this, and then Reddit and nothing.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so yeah, uber and Lyft have talked for years about being able you know, your riders, passengers being able to add you as one of their favorite drivers and so that they would be more likely to get it matched with you. I know I've had so many people over the years ask me how can I get you again, how can I make sure you're my driver? And I would give them my card. But it's inconvenient to do that. You give somebody your card and then they call them like, hey, can you pick us up at nine? So you got to stop driving about you know 830. You know, and then you just lose a lot of money doing it.
Speaker 3:So, yeah, we always hoped they would do this and so they announced it the other day. You know the story came out. It was all over the web. You know Lyft introduces favorite driver. You know new favorite driver. It's going to boost rider loyalty, safety and earnings. It's going to make, allow, allow passengers to favor the driver, to make it easier to match with them in the future. So I saw this blur man and I was. I was so excited they're talking about it's going to roll out in select cities in the, you know, next few weeks, with a wider launch across the US and Canada by the end of August. Yeah, but then it gets to the part um. When booking a future scheduled ride, lyft will prioritize matching riders with their favorite drivers whenever possible. Well, my whole clientele, almost as college kids. They don't, they don't ever schedule a ride. People around here don't have to schedule rides. I never see scheduled rides on my apps like ever.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's, it's very rare. Um my, my thought on it is they want to lift, wants to encourage people to do schedule the ride that's why they're only allowing it, because they charge more for those, because there's a reservation fee and so on and so forth. So so I I think this is why they're doing it and not giving it out for for everything.
Speaker 3:Now you think they would do something like that? Come on now.
Speaker 2:Are you? Are you talking sarcasm?
Speaker 3:Yes, yes, indeed, yeah, yeah, for sure. So, yeah, they even had a little graphic on there, you know. It shows what the passengers want to be. It shows, you know, and ask them how was your ride, you know. And then they have the rating system, the five stars and the, where they can click where it was a clean car and all that. And it sounds. It has a little checkbox down here. It says favorite this driver will prioritize your favorite drivers for scheduled rides.
Speaker 2:So yeah, my question.
Speaker 3:So, that being said, I'm glad they're doing something. It's a step in the right direction step in the right direction, for sure.
Speaker 2:But I wonder, do you have to be online like I don't know that details? I know I sent two articles, all right, um, but I know at least the ride share guy one.
Speaker 3:I I don't know it says it says driver notification and priority pings, so favorited drivers will receive a notification in the app and gain priority access to that rider's scheduled ride. So I guess if they schedule a ride and they choose you, it's going to. You know, it's going to get one of those pop-ups.
Speaker 2:Even if you're offline. Well, that's what I'm saying, like, if it's a good ride, I want to be. It's one of my favorite passengers, I want to get notified, no matter what. Yeah because I might be able to do it and they probably give you, like what, a couple minutes to decide, maybe.
Speaker 3:Well, I don't know if it's a scheduled ride. I mean, if they're scheduling the ride for next week, I don't know.
Speaker 2:Well, they're going to be quick about it.
Speaker 3:They're going to be quick, quick.
Speaker 1:I bet you got like a minute or two, and then you're like not.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we're going. Well, I would never see him, probably.
Speaker 2:Anyway, I'm, because, if I'm not driving, my phones in my console, my car yeah, yeah, that's true, mine's, mine's on in the house, but it's I don't really look at it much. Um, well, yeah, I mean, it's like we said it's stepping the right direction, I think, um, you know uber's to do it soon. They flip-flop.
Speaker 3:Sure, and they introduced a few other things too. I was surprised they hadn't done this earlier, but they're also allowing the passengers to block a driver if they had a bad experience with them, because with Lyft, we've always been able to. If you rate them three or lower, you would not be matched with that passenger. That's what they always told us anyway, so I just assumed that was already there.
Speaker 3:But that was already there for the passenger. Luckily, neither one of us take a lot of rides here, but luckily I've never had a bad enough experience that I wanted to block one of my drivers, you know when I was a passenger. But uh yeah, just when that came out and they announced, it's just kind of one of those things you're like oh, I just assumed they could almost right, uh, hey, dab delivers on tiktok.
Speaker 2:Thanks for joining. Appreciate you, uh, and I. You know, pete joined the chat too, and he's the one that you know with ivy. Uh, I don't think it ever got blocked for him, and I know he had come up with a couple other accounts too.
Speaker 2:But yeah, that's the thing that's what if it was never a thing and they just like. The chances are pretty slim to get the same guy. But if you drive in the same area, like during the week, and you need a ride during the week, during the day, you got a good chance. You're gonna get a repeat passenger because there's not a lot of drivers out, you know, 9p to 2a on a friday night to get a repeat. I mean, I probably in my quote-unquote ride share career maybe got 10 repeats out of like 8 000 rides really, yeah, really see it's it's.
Speaker 3:It's such a different experience I know I mean there's people I've probably given I don't know at least 50 rides too. Really, oh yeah, yeah, I have.
Speaker 3:I mean there's people I've probably given I don't know at least 50 rides to really oh, yeah, yeah I mean there, I mean there was one when I was doing it full time, like I mean, you know, she, she went to work in the mornings like about nine and it was usually kind of slow and I mean I almost I got her almost every day uh, there for a while that's crazy.
Speaker 2:There just must not be as many drivers. I mean mean, in a smaller city maybe I don't know, but like, yeah, maybe 10 times I got.
Speaker 3:I got. I got one group of people uh three times in one night. Yeah, it was so funny. They were here to do uh. They were in the cast of a uh, a play that was going to be at our performing arts center. I forget which play it was, but so I picked them up. They had they'd rented a car. So I picked them up the rental car place they're dropping off the rental car, took them to their hotel. Then a little while later I got another ping, picked them up at their hotel, took them to the bowling alley and then, like a couple hours later, I was I get a ping and it was them that's pick them up at the bowling alley and I'm like I promise I'm really not the only uber driver in town, like oh yeah, sure you're not.
Speaker 3:Like I, really I'm not.
Speaker 2:But that's funny. Pete says he had so many repeats, and he probably had 10 alone, that he did regularly like 10 10 passengers, I assume, and none of them had car seats. None of you, no, because he wouldn't have done them regularly, if they didn't have car seats. Oh my gosh, that's crazy.
Speaker 1:Well.
Speaker 2:I'm excited that they're trying something new Again. Hey, this is a throwback to the last episode. It's time to buy your Lyft stock.
Speaker 3:allegedly don't take advice from us yeah this is yeah, this is not financial advice, this is just saying uh, all right, moving on to the, the next story.
Speaker 2:Um, it's not really a story, but um, it is amazon flex. Uh, oh, no, this isn't the one I was.
Speaker 1:Oh is this the one I was talking about yeah, oh no, I think I forgot.
Speaker 2:Oh no, no, that one's later on. I'm an ass. Okay, so this one's easy Roadside assistance available. There's another Amazon one.
Speaker 3:I thought it was this one.
Speaker 2:So God dang it, which I think is super cool and it doesn't seem very expensive $6.09 a month and you can also add a family member for just $3.75. So it's $73 a year through Allstate covers, roadsides including tire changes, jump starts, fuel delivery, lockout assistance and towing service up to 10 miles per incident. So this is actually better, I think, than AAA, because AAA, I think, will only pull you five miles. Um, it depends on what level you have in triple a oh, is it?
Speaker 2:yeah, yeah, like they'll tell my car 200 miles oh shit, you're like, I mean, is that aarp level?
Speaker 3:there's just times I want to go to nashville. I don't feel like driving, as I had tell my ass to nashville yeah, no kidding, yeah, that's. Yeah, no, you can do yeah, there's, there's. It's just like one level up uh okay like I know, I know the they have, I think like maybe three or four levels. Okay, yeah, I'd say further distance.
Speaker 2:Uh, a hundred miles. The base one just says was that a hundred miles. Maybe maybe I do have more, I don't know.
Speaker 2:I I haven't had them, had to tow them in a while, um, but uh or had to be so good yeah, except you know the time when I was in, uh, the snow bank and I needed two tow trucks to get me the fuck out of there, and that one I don't even think I had service. Then I think it was just I paid like 175 bucks to get out of there and like washed my earnings. So, um, but I I think that's not bad 73 bucks a year yeah, no, that's not bad no, I mean, I have some already, so I won't sign up for it. But yeah, I think that's good.
Speaker 3:All right, larry, what's up? Okay, so next we're talking about. We've heard so much about Uber and autonomous vehicles. Well, lyft made an announcement this week as well that they're going to be adding some autonomous shuttles in 2026 also. So they're going to be adding some shuttles made by an australian manufacturer called bentler group. Uh, it says these urban electric shuttles uh, will have no steering wheel, will not have a many pedals and they'll have inward facing seats that will seat up to nine people and also have room for six standing passengers. So, yeah, they're kind of look kind of like a shuttle bus. I guess what the picture kind of looks like. But they're trying to. You know, they're trying to expand a little bit to uber. You hear about them in the news every week. They're partnering with one or more companies. It it seems like um in autonomous vehicle space. And so, yeah, again, you know this new CEO with with Lyft, he's, he's trying to, you know, at least stay in the game.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, he's copying Uber a little bit, but yeah, I mean, that's what you kind of got to do. Um, I don't know, I'm waiting for one of these two to innovate something amazing, but at this point I think they're just kind of. It's like it kind of reminds me of your cell phone, right, like used to be like you upgrade every year because it was just like the hardware was better, everything was better. Now I'd ride this thing to the dirt because there's really not much more you can offer me.
Speaker 2:And I think it's the same with ride share, I think with Lyft and Uber other. And I think it's the same with ride share, I think with Lyft and Uber other than the autonomous part, which you know I'm not.
Speaker 3:Yeah, unless they get into something you know like the, like the air taxis or you know something like that. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, something, yeah, something like really wild, where you're like in the air, or I can't even think, I don't know.
Speaker 2:I mean, I'm trying to think how could they even on the food level, like I mean, they cook it on your porch for you? I don't know, maybe, yeah, who knows, um, but yeah, well, it's good that lift is doing that for sure. Uh, moving on this tiktok, the driver takes a bite out of food and this one's wild this is in the restaurant that they do this. So we're gonna play that and then we'll talk about it.
Speaker 1:We're going to play that and then we'll talk about it. That's your food, that's your food, that's you. Yeah, dude.
Speaker 2:What are you doing? I didn't watch the end, so the guy was like asking if it was his food. Um, I guess it could have been, but okay. So here's a question. No, when I use the mobile app and go through the drive-thru, they don't put stickers on them like that. They just give you the food. I was trying to think to myself do I, when I get mobile order, uh, from mcdonald's, do I get? No, so that?
Speaker 3:was the delivery that was it I think the guy even said he said is that your food?
Speaker 2:it sounded like he said no, oh okay, I missed the end part of that, but yeah, that's pretty bolden to do, uh, right yeah, right there, I mean right in the restaurant yeah it, just you know.
Speaker 3:Again another reason I don't do door dashing yeah uh, pete says on tiktok.
Speaker 2:Uh, bro, I'm just here to tell you. If I ever see a delivery driver sampling someone's food, please believe me, I would definitely call that. I know I'm glad that he got the video, but the second he got it he should have called him out right there and like what are you doing? You know, just, I mean miles, might, might as well make it go viral by causing a little stink yeah.
Speaker 3:So, pete, can you hear me on tiktok? This week we had trouble on audio. I, I assume he does he, he can.
Speaker 2:So you know it's funny, we, uh, we. We did a test right after the show and, uh, we ended up. I said, hey, force, close your app and just restart it, and it worked fine. So who knows?
Speaker 3:what it was. I mean that first thing, always reboot it.
Speaker 2:I know you, you're, you're in it, bro, like I know dude, but you don't want to do it live. You know what I mean. But yeah, just force close. And uh, I had a guy speak at flex. He's like, hey man, this thing is just spinning. I don't know who he is. He's like I don't know do I look?
Speaker 2:yeah, do I look like a tech guy? I mean like shit. And I was like oh, and then I don't know if it was his old lady's phone, but I was like oh, just force close it. And they kind of looked at me and walked away. I was like hey, do you know what force close the app was? He's like oh no, my, my, my girlfriend will do it. And of course it fixed it, you know what I mean, it just I don't know.
Speaker 3:It clears the cash or something, and yeah, yeah, something's just hung up and it restarts everything, but it was hilarious.
Speaker 2:He didn't know how to it. He was older than it was probably mid-50s, not like super old, but it was funny. He didn't know what that meant. I'm like yeah okay, well all right. Yeah, it's always always the first thing to try reboot yeah for sure, except we sometimes forget about that stuff exactly, we know about it well, yeah, it is different when you're doing a live show.
Speaker 3:Yes, you don't want to restart it in the middle. You don't want to just be messing with all the tech and right but, yeah, traveler, my flex app.
Speaker 2:Yes, the Flex app does that all the time. It'll hang up. The bug I have now, and even though I haven't done a lot, by the way, I went back and looked at my last Flex. It was I got paid December 2. I hadn't done Flex all year in 2025 up until recently. Yeah, but anyways, the bug now is you go to take which had been an older bug, but this one you go to do a picture and it's a white screen and sometimes you got to force close it, start again, go through all the prompts and like usually two times of wiping it out. It it works, but I'm like a third of the deliveries are the white screen. Yeah, I'm like how, how is this happening?
Speaker 2:yeah, their texts it's wild like a trillion dollar company and you can't yeah one of the biggest companies in the world and, yeah, and they have such a crappy app if you'd stop paying faith for all her free apps, you might or free routes, you might be able to fix your freaking app maybe.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's where all it goes. That's where it goes. Uh, so fun to give her a hard time, it is all right, so next up.
Speaker 2:Uh no, this is larry's. I almost skipped yours, I'm. Why am I so excited for my amazon fresh blocks? I?
Speaker 3:don't know man, you're like chomping at the bit. I know, and it's not even that big of a deal anyways.
Speaker 2:Uh, so, yeah, so this is uh.
Speaker 3:This is new from spark. Um, uh, let me pull it up here where I can see it uh, because I can't read that yeah I know you have to pull it up on the um, let me pull it up on there oh yeah.
Speaker 3:So yeah, this is a verifying picture of spark shoppers on the checkout app. So this is new. It says coming soon associates will need to check that the photo displayed in the checkout app looks like the spark shopper at the self checkouts. This will help make sure that only approved spark shoppers are shopping for customers orders. So how it works. It says after an audit, the system will prompt the checkout team associate to review the sharp Shopper's picture in my Walmart at the self-checkouts. Verify that the photo matches the authorized Spark Shopper. If the photo does not match, select I'm not sure to report the issue. The only action that an associate should take is to mark the observation in the app. Do not stop or detain the Spark Shopper. Do not stop or detain Spark Shopper's card or merchandise. Do not ask for their ID or driver's license. Spark's platform trust and safety team will review and take appropriate action on accounts via the app. So this was a Reddit post.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:One of the responders said that he worked at Walmart, or no, I guess. The guy who posted it said I'm a Walmart employee, but wanted to update you on rumors about the face verification. This should be rolling out soon to most Walmarts, to my knowledge, so expect a decrease in spark drivers using sold accounts or account sharing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean Bubba Sue. I like this idea. However, a lot of legal accounts don't do shopping, that is true. I think they should do it for those too. But I like they say don't detain them, no, because they're just going to flag their account and then they're going to get deactivated.
Speaker 3:Yeah, there's no reason to have a big confrontation in the store.
Speaker 2:No, so going back to that, let me bring that back up again. So, going back to that, let me bring that back up again. Okay, so they're looking at, verify the photo matches the spark.
Speaker 1:So do they?
Speaker 2:get so do? Do they get a picture of us in the app and then they just look at us and like on their end.
Speaker 3:I guess. So I mean it says it says a prompt that checkout team. So to review the spark shoppers picture in my Walmart at the self checkout. So I guess I guess somehow it's it's linked there to the self checkout, to your app.
Speaker 2:Oh, I don't know. So it's going to like pop up on the, on the checkout. That's what it.
Speaker 3:That's what app right?
Speaker 2:yeah, walmart app yeah, I don't know where they're talking about that being displayed, huh and I also wonder, um, if you uh, is it every time or is it random, like when they do the random audits of your cart, like that? I don't know either, but this is good that we're pushing it to the right direction. One other thing I wanted to throw out there uh, for the chat too. Bubba suit pops up on their handheld. Okay, um, uh, for amazon flex. So for the same day, warehouse workers that do that, um, we. So gabe has goes into a computer and it scans his license and then they tell him where to go to get the cart.
Speaker 2:My friend jamie brought up a good point. We don't have that here in grand rapids. They just take our license and they just give us a cart. How are they going to prevent somebody from using a bullshit license? Do I wonder if they take a picture? Uh, I asked gabe, but he didn't get back to me at the computer to make sure that you're you. I mean, they do that in the app, but there's apps that can mask that. We talked to that security guy that one time.
Speaker 1:So that's not.
Speaker 2:But I'm wondering when you're in the warehouse, does it take your picture and then match with? The license that you're scanning. Yeah because otherwise you just you know, at least at a human level, they don't. I mean, they probably don't pay attention either, but at least there's a more of a chance for that person to get caught, because they're like you know, if it's, you know yolanda on the license and it's, it's me yeah, I mean not that there's no judgment, but I'm just saying obviously I'm not yolanda.
Speaker 2:Um, they may catch it, but otherwise they're just going to hand it back. So I there's gotta be, there's gotta be something more in the, in the warehouse, on those computers.
Speaker 3:I would think so, I would think so, or else, yeah, it would not not be worth much but this is exciting.
Speaker 2:I you know the spark ID verification. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm here for it. Get the people that are fucking around cheating out Like it's not fair. Fair, it's just not fair, yeah yeah, it ruins it for everybody.
Speaker 3:You know we talk, we've talked about it many, many times on here uh, you know, puts people in danger. It puts people at risk whether and you know it's if it's somebody that's not qualified to be there, they haven't been approved.
Speaker 2:Um well, that's the thing. I'm sure they're qualified to be there, but just get your own account yeah, you know just do it the right way.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and if they don't, then there's probably a reason you know. Their account's probably been shut down for some reason.
Speaker 2:Yeah, or they got a criminal record or whatever Cause they've air mailed somebody's package across the yard.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And I, and I get it. It's a great way to make extra money if you're struggling, especially with somebody that's maybe a little bit down on their luck and maybe they do have a small record or something, and you know, I get it. Like it's it's a great way to make some money. But, like, if you're not qualified, you're not qualified. So, um, josh says maybe sue will work more than two hours a day. I what, bubba sue, are you? Are you throwing shade at bubba sue? How dare you?
Speaker 2:how, I think so are you okay, uh, this is, we're finally here finally, finally, the amazon fresh blocks.
Speaker 2:So this is very confusing to me, so that's why I was excited for it. So I'm gonna read it verbatim and tell me if I'm dumb. More earning opportunities for amazon fresh blocks. Amazon is now offering customers the opportunity to shop grocery items as part of their Amazoncom order as an Amazon Flex delivery partner. That means more customer orders and increased opportunities to earn With a new experience. Amazon Fresh blocks will include a mix of both tip-eligible fresh and non-tip-eligible Amazoncom orders. On the same route, every Amazon Fresh block will include at least one tip eligible order and you always have 100% of customer tips. We'll launch this at Houston from July 24. Amazon Flex oh God, this is funny. Amazon Flex always provides clear upfront guaranteed earnings and estimated block time so you can decide if the offer is right for you. You, in the offer screen of the app, you'll see the guaranteed earnings and whether block includes tip eligible orders. So this basically. So tell me so you. So I read this. What do you think?
Speaker 3:it is just from me reading it and reading it on the screen like I would think it's a way for them, uh, to shove out non-tip eligible orders to make you take them right.
Speaker 2:So I my guesses are it made it look like. So the first sentence says the opportunity. Oh, it's. Oh, I'm a dummy, this is where I missed it amazon now offering customers the opportunity to shop grocery items. This part in my head it was drivers. So I was like why are they so that? So wait, the drivers are shopping the whole foods orders. I'm so confused, so that's why I I read it too fast and I'm dumb. So, okay, I get what they're doing now. Yeah, I think I think you're right. I think it's basically, they want to get it all out with paying you less.
Speaker 3:Um I mean, that's what they're always trying to do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, they are. That's interesting. Huh yeah, I read that wrong. So I was all excited for this and I was like wait, are we supposed to be shopping these? I'm like no, the customer has the opportunity to shop grocery items as acom order. Um, but we don't have Amazon fresh by us, we just have whole foods. But we don't have Amazon Fresh by us, we just have.
Speaker 1:Whole Foods, so Amazon.
Speaker 2:Fresh is like they have basically a giant grocery store in the warehouse. Okay, do you guys have Amazon Fresh by you?
Speaker 3:We don't even have Whole Foods. Yeah, we don't have any of those kind of stores.
Speaker 2:I mean, whole Foods is nothing to like.
Speaker 3:we have one in the area, yeah there's one next door my son the area. Yeah, there's one next door my son in St Louis. There's one next door to his apartment. So I've been there a few times, but it's a little pricey for me, oh little.
Speaker 2:I was in there once. So when it first came I did a bunch of Whole Foods and then I had to use the bathroom. So there was no bathroom in the side, that you know. So you have to walk all across the store and I walked back by some like organic blueberries and it was like $16 for the pint. $16 for a pint of blueberries. I'm like, are you kidding me?
Speaker 3:Yeah, the only thing, uh, I think I bought there is my son did turn around and they have some uh Italian soda there and their mango is it is, it's really good.
Speaker 2:Is it. Yeah, is it $16?.
Speaker 3:No, I've, I've, I've. It's not too bad, it? Um. I mean it's a. I mean it's a big bottle too I forget how many ounces it is I mean it's uh, it's a pretty good-sized bottle, but it's really good.
Speaker 2:Do you have a Trader Joe's by you?
Speaker 3:We do not.
Speaker 2:That's surprising, those are popping up and those are great.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the closest one is in Nashville. We got real excited because Franklin, which is the town next to us, it's a much smaller town. It's about 15, 20 minutes from here. They built a giant warehouse there. And so we're like surely they're going to build a store here, but they haven't. That's funny. At least twice a year the rumor would come out on Facebook.
Speaker 2:Of course, trader Joe's is coming in it never happens? No, of course not. Well, if you do get one, that's a great store.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, Our daughter in Virginia works at Trader Joe's.
Speaker 2:Oh, so you know about it.
Speaker 3:Oh, yeah, yeah, my wife loves it. Whenever we go to Lexington to visit our son or we go to Nashville, we'll go down there for a concert or something, but we're going to Trader Joe's to fill up a cooler Fill up that cooler man.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they have a lot of unique items, Kind of like Whole Foods a little bit, but less expensive I mean, it's still a little bit more expensive than your normal grocery store, but a lot of unique stuff that you're not going to find in your normal grocery store.
Speaker 3:So yeah, my wife has a whole list of things that she she always gets whenever we go to trader joe's.
Speaker 2:That's hilarious all right time for waybo in the news all right.
Speaker 3:So here's. Here's a just another, another video of a waymo, but not not quite getting it done, right.
Speaker 1:Waymo going the wrong way. Oh god, watch out, waymo. Waymo going the wrong way. Waymo going the wrong way. What the fuck?
Speaker 2:Holy shit, waymo that's going the wrong way, buddy okay, I'm thoroughly confused yeah so at the one point they were on, the Waymo was on the wrong side of the road. Yeah, and I get that.
Speaker 3:But then he gets over and they're still saying he's going the wrong way yeah, I don't know about that at the end there, but the thing I was like man dude, why are you so close to this? Waymo? Waymo car's going down the wrong way on a street. I'm not gonna be like right beside it.
Speaker 2:Well, I think the guy in front got in front of it to stop him trying to yeah, and he did get over but then there he kept saying, uh, going the wrong way, going the wrong way, and I'm like, well, he's back over in the right lane, what are you doing? You guys are driving in the fucking street with your little my wife calls them cycles. My wife calls them a unicycle.
Speaker 1:I don't know what the official name that those are I don't one wheels. I think they're one wheels.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's called one wheels, the electronic one.
Speaker 3:So yeah, yeah, there's, there's uh oh man like, yeah, I, I see's, there's a oh man Like, yeah, I see people, uh, there's one guy here in town who ride it like late at night and I've seen him when I've been out. Uber man, he will come flying, flying down through there, through the intersections and stuff, like, dude you're, you're just asking for it.
Speaker 2:All our door-to-door salesmen's in the area have those.
Speaker 3:Oh really.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So, they get out of their car and that's how they get to house to house, so they just drive it to your yard, or they drive no, they go on the road they go, or the sidewalk yeah, they don't. They're not disrespectful with it, but um, so yeah interesting yeah, pete on tiktok says okay, but can we just say and then he just stopped, he, I think he died um. But yeah, those there I think they're called one wheels. I don't know how they do them. I think it takes some practice of like leaning.
Speaker 3:I'm sure See my, my, my mind, who thinks I'm still 25, is like man I'd be, so much fun, hop on there. And then I'd get on there and I'd break a hip or something well, yeah, I mean I see a lot.
Speaker 2:Well, I know the salesmen aren't going as fast as a lot of these guys, but like I would want a helmet on because you know I'm gonna fall off that thing oh yeah, I mean I would knee pads the whole nine, elbow pads the whole nine yards well, I probably wouldn't have that, but like I want to keep my skull from splitting open on the pavement, but yeah yeah, crazy.
Speaker 2:Uh, all right, octopus tablet. Uh, we talk about this a lot and I think it's such a good opportunity for you to make extra money on the side well, not on the side, but when you're working. Uber, this is a tablet that plays trivia for your passengers, uh, fun little games, gives you sports updates, like if the super bowl is going on, stuff like that. So, uh, check that out in your description or in the description for the link to sign up. Uh, everything's free. You'll get the tablet, the charger, the mount, and you just put it on your back of your headrest.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and they'll replace anything that breaks for free. Yeah, it's broken or stolen, or a charging cable goes bad or breaks off? Uh, just let them know. And those I I think I've gone through like three charging cables, tablets.
Speaker 2:Still good, it hasn't never had any trouble with it, but uh, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's great. Um, I encourage people to do it. If you're doing ride share, you might as well make. You can make up to like a hundred bucks a month, they say, so it's pretty cool.
Speaker 3:So a month, they say so it's pretty cool. So check it out and reach certain levels, they'll send you out some swag I reached. They sent me out a uh, octopus yeti cup about him, I don't know, two months ago, yeah what was that? A 5 000 point tier 5 000 points, I think something like that yeah, you get see.
Speaker 2:I see, that's the thing. Like, what was I talking about?
Speaker 2:I think it was monday show, when you um people like to gamify stuff you know, and even though it's like, okay, it's a yeti, whatever it's like you know what a 25 cup or something, but it's still cool to like reward people for like doing. I mean, I want money too, but I'm just saying it's a nice little added feature and I think you know when. Do you remember when walmart had the free cookie and soda from subway? Do you remember that? Did you ever have that here? That was great. I mean like, yeah, big deal, it's a soda, or maybe it was a free six inch sub or something like that yeah, uber had that yeah, uber, what did I say yeah?
Speaker 2:you said walmart oh, I'm sorry, I was like I don't remember walmart. No, no, no, no, thank you no, uber had that and I, I, I love that those was great.
Speaker 3:Man. You're out working. You're like you know what? I'm right here by the subway. I'm gonna turn off the apps, I'm gonna pop in, get my free cookie, get my free drink and take a little break, you know and the thing is, it's great it cost them next to nothing yeah, next to nothing, and all that stuff trickles down like in your head.
Speaker 2:You're gonna be like, oh, they're not, you know, oh, I'm not. I already used my free drink and I'm just gonna go grab something at subway, you know, because you know, let's say, you have a good connection with the person that works there. Then all of a sudden, now you're regular, you know it all trickles down and but man, now they got rid of that and that and there hasn't been anything like that since as far as I know, not that I've seen- yeah.
Speaker 2:So I mean, we're, we're simple humans, just reward us a little bit. Yeah, do we want more pay? Of course, are we still gonna bitch? Absolutely. But I'm also gonna give you props and say, hey, I really enjoy having you know that that cough or the, the pop, the cookie and the six and sub like once a week or whatever, it was no doubt come on, reward us simpletons.
Speaker 2:We want that's right uh, larry, uber and lyft drivers may soon to be come union employees which I read this article and I started getting tired towards the end.
Speaker 3:But yeah, and and they never. I never did I read through it and yeah, there's a lot, of, a lot of uh there's actually a repeat paragraph in there.
Speaker 2:Did you catch that at the beginning?
Speaker 3:yeah, yeah, and I'm like you know um is this ai no what?
Speaker 3:because ai wouldn't fuck that up no, I might well, so it never does say you know why they would have to be a union. But, uh, there, there's another bill out in california legislature. This one's called ab 1340, and it's a proposal that would let rideshare drivers unionize by relinquishing their independent contractor status. So there's been this issue that's been going on for over 10 years, with different bills in California that have passed, and they get challenged in the Supreme Court. All the way back to 2009, when Uber launched, there's been a debate on whether rideshare drivers should be counted as employees or independent contractors.
Speaker 3:Um, you know, get, some people want one way, some people want another way. So you had, you know, you had prop 22, um, which you know was handed down by the California Supreme Court. Voters approved for it. Then that got contested in court. It said that the ballot would not prevent further legislation to allow ride-share drivers to unionize. So it sounds like they're finally going to decide, maybe once and for all, whether they're going to have the chance to join a union, but I don't see anywhere in there where it says that they'd be absolutely forced to join the union.
Speaker 2:Right yeah.
Speaker 3:But that's some interesting stats in here. According to 2024 UC Berkeley Labor Center study California gig, ride share drivers earn a median employee equivalent pay of $5.97 an hour after expenses.
Speaker 2:I saw it. I'm like that can't be true. How.
Speaker 3:I don't know, man. Even as average ride share prices rose over 7% from 2023 to 2024, uber drivers earnings fell 3.4% and Lyft driver earnings dropped 13.9%, according to Gridwise.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and we know it's a great app. I mean, it's not.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Gridwise, they did a lot of research.
Speaker 2:But I just can't believe. But it's all about the opinion of expenses, right. What is you know if they take in depreciation or maintenance or something like that? But yeah, I feel like that's got to be a little low. But I could be wrong too.
Speaker 3:I didn't do the stats, so but yeah, we'll have it linked in the in the show notes.
Speaker 2:It is a, uh yeah, wordy article yeah, I, literally I read them for that one paragraph and I started and I got a sentence. I was like, wait a minute it's actually off. This is a little different, but it's the the. The point of that paragraph is exactly the same as the one before.
Speaker 3:I'm like what exactly yeah?
Speaker 2:Well, it's always confusing on there. I'm sure Steve will break it down Good, as he always does, cause, um, that's what he does. He breaks shit down really well, so no doubt.
Speaker 2:Uh all right A couple. This guy posted a review, I think, at the Hooters and I don't know if it's real or not, but it looks legit. But Mike B says a trip to Hooters used to mean more to me than just chicken wings. It also meant a little scenery and, if you catch my drift, I'd tell my wife I was going for the lunch specials, but we knew I was there for the ambience, or ambience not. But not now. My wife just uber eats it straight to the house. I didn't even like the food. I was in it for the views.
Speaker 2:Please get rid of uber eats so that's pretty funny, that is funny, I mean I, I feel like if it was from a you know. No, no offense to boomers. Uh, from a boomer, it it probably is a legit cause. They don't realize where they're posting on things sometimes and like they're thinking they're sending it to the restaurant but posting for the world to see. Exactly oh old man just wants to see some titties.
Speaker 3:That's right, Uh all right. We're simple people.
Speaker 2:Us men are simple, we are simpletons.
Speaker 3:Doesn't take much, it doesn't. Our last story here is this is out, I think, decatur, I don't know, decatur, illinois. There's a restaurant there called Smacking Tacos. He said he's talking about the DoorD orders. Uh, he said when I first started, you know connected with door dash. Um, the owner said pickup orders made up 30 of my sales. And he said in the last two months it's 70 of my sales.
Speaker 3:Damn so, door dash is charging me 30 on orders made through their app, along with marketing fees every week. He said this forces me to raise my prices online to offset the costs. He says you know, people say just go ahead and raise your prices 30% so people want to order. They, you know they're, they're going to pay their own commission fee. But he said I can't, I don't feel right doing that. I can't just keep increasing my prices to offset it. It's not fair to me, it's not fair to the customer.
Speaker 3:So in response, he created his own app for his shop it's the Smackin' Tacos app, hoping that people will use that and not have to pay more for his food and he wouldn't have to continue to pay commission fees to DoorDash. And I want to ask what you think about this last part here it says we to door dash. Uh, and I want to ask what you think about this last part here it says we have access. We still have access to door dash drivers and uber eats drivers. I don't have to hire my own, I don't have to do any of that. You still get it in a timely manner and maybe go ahead, yeah I read that and I'm like how yeah, I don't understand that is.
Speaker 3:I mean, is he talking about just hiring them, uh, on the side? Yeah, yeah, I didn't have access to door dash drivers If you're not going through the door dash app.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's strange. Um, I know Remember. Back in the day, though, you were still able to like order through Uber, even if they weren't on the platform, but I don't know. And uber would, but you would have to, or I don't know.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and yeah, and the best, the best line is is the last line of there yep futures, says that his other business, spreading buns, will also have their own online ordering apps.
Speaker 2:Spreading buns yeah I, I read that too earlier and I was like that's hilarious. Um yeah, I don't. So I, I really don't understand, uh, why uh hang on a second, there we go. Tiktok was gonna end me, uh, I. What I really don't understand is okay, what's up?
Speaker 3:bubba? Sue said just like pizza hut, papa john's. You ordered through the restaurant and DoorDash just gets dispatched.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, that's right. Of course, there's plenty of restaurants. I think our local pizza place does that. Yeah, I'm an idiot. Yeah, that's true. So how does the pay work on that? Like, who pays for the delivery then?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Like the restaurant's's, gotta have to pay for that right? Maybe they?
Speaker 3:do and they? It's just not as much. Yeah, maybe, maybe they have a you know different price just for the delivery. Um, so if it doesn't go through their app, you know, through the doordash app, I guess there's less fees.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it'd be something good to research yeah, because I I can't believe I forgot about that. Yeah, because when I'll order'll order. It's really weird. If I go to this pizza place's website they will not forward me to DoorDash, but if I just Google the restaurant it'll say order right here and then it is through, like you order on the app and then doordash delivers. It's kind of weird. Um, yeah, that's right, I forgot about that. Well, I guess my point is is back to the original point of why don't you raise your prices? Why don't if they're willing, if the customer is willing to pay more to get delivered. Why do you give a shit, is it?
Speaker 3:you know the conscience I guess.
Speaker 2:But like, this is the reality of what it is. If, if, and you know, maybe, maybe he's worried that people won't order and then we'll just go to another restaurant. You know what I mean. But you're going to get the same in each rep. They're the fees.
Speaker 3:Everything's going to be raised yeah, yeah, if they're going to order uh from your restaurant or somewhere else, the fees are going to be the same.
Speaker 2:I would think I mean each restaurant can adjust them probably, right they? If they want to take the hit which I don't know what restaurant would of the 30, and whatever the marketing fees is, then I guess it's up to them.
Speaker 3:But that'd be dumb, I mean, then you're only yeah, and most, most restaurants are on a pretty thin margin anyways, yeah.
Speaker 2:So I don't know why they wouldn't. I don't know. To me it's just like just raise them if they want it, if they don't, then they're gonna. They're gonna fucking order and pick it up, come get it themselves.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I don't know, but if you have the skills to make your own app or you know it doesn't cost you much to make an app and you can lower the fees and still get it delivered, yeah, I mean stuff, that's great AI.
Speaker 2:you know it's. I mean, I just saw an article today that this startup created a website to create apps that's like regular language kind of thing and like oh yeah, yeah, I mess with that.
Speaker 3:My buddy of mine made an app just doing that. Yeah, playing around, there's not a lot of coding involved with it. And it's.
Speaker 2:It's not complete plug and play like where you're just, like you know, copy and pasting, but it is. It is a lot easier, and maybe that's what he did. He's like fuck, if I can do this and cut it. Yeah, Granted, that's a great idea. If it's successful for him, then more power to him. But if it's a lot of work, you're like oh, how much time am I putting into this? You?
Speaker 3:know yeah, is it worth it.
Speaker 2:Is it worth it? Yeah, exactly. So, all right, thank you all for joining the show. Really appreciate it. Uh, in eight, seven minutes we'll be on Patreon. Go to patreoncom, slash the gig econ podcast. There you can get Larry and I break down other gig stuff. Why this ad says diabetes is not from sweets and it's got a maggot on it I'm looking at. I don't know, but anyways, next week I'll be. I'll be MIA again.
Speaker 3:Look at this dude. I don't know what the hell.
Speaker 2:Yeah, at least I'm doing gig work. Yeah, so I am actually working for the old people. They needed somebody to do a day-long trip and, uh, I am not going to be here, so it'll be gabriel and larry again. Hopefully they won't talk for eight minutes yeah, we will.
Speaker 3:We will. Uh, I will. I'll tell you, I'm not gonna say we, I'm not putting on gabe, it was all me. I will remember to hit record and start streaming at the beginning of the show.
Speaker 2:For sure, that's for sure. That's so funny. When I was reading the chatter on that in the telegram, like when I was just dying laughing. I was like eight minutes. You all talked for eight minutes and then had to repeat all that.
Speaker 3:It's all good man, I love it.
Speaker 2:I love it. As always, don't put up with anyone's bullshit and we'll see you on the road peace out. Hey, good night everybody this podcast is produced and edited by hey guys media group. Thank you.
