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Tesla Robotaxis Launch in Texas 🚗 | DoorDash Driver Tells Customer to ‘Choke on It’ 😱| Ep 257
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Tesla Robotaxis Launch in Texas 🚗 | DoorDash Driver Tells Customer to ‘Choke on It’ 😱
The future of gig work is transforming with autonomous vehicles gaining momentum and companies seeking new ways to increase profits at drivers' expense. We discuss how these changes will impact drivers across the country and what strategies workers can use to adapt.
• Waymo has applied for a permit to test autonomous vehicles in New York City despite strict regulations
• DoorDash driver likely got deactivated after leaving a note saying "hope you choke on it" when unhappy with order compensation
• Drone delivery for food orders shows impressive stability with minimal spillage despite landing challenges
• Walmart is testing "dark stores" (customer-free warehouses) to speed up delivery preparation and efficiency
• A Columbia Business School study confirms Uber has increased its take rate from 32% to 42% (sometimes over 50%) through algorithmic pricing
• Tesla has launched robotaxis in Austin priced at just $4.20 per ride, raising questions about long-term sustainability
• Uber is launching new ad formats in their app and across other platforms to create additional revenue streams
• Market Wagon offers an alternative gig opportunity with guaranteed pay via paper checks for farm-to-table deliveries
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Oh brother, this guy stinks. 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. Hello, hello, welcome to the Gig Economy Podcast episode 257. It finally happened. You're on mic.
Speaker 2:What's that? I got an echo. You're like echoing in my Am I really?
Speaker 3:Yeah, is something wrong.
Speaker 1:How's that? Is that better, I wonder? If it's a TikTok thing, hold on.
Speaker 2:Yeah, let's see. Ask the audience. Is Steve Boa Sue, any of y'all? Does it sound good? Okay, to you guys, it's got to be.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Oh, hold on, but you're getting an echo hold on.
Speaker 2:Not really an echo, it's just it kind of sounds distant. All right, hang on a second. It likes not through your microphone yeah, that's there we go, that's it much dude.
Speaker 1:I didn't even, didn't you hear it in the pre show. I tell larry to this all the time driven wild says what software are you using to stream? I'm using stream yard, but kind of a bootleg way, uh, through tiktok.
Speaker 1:So teamwork, teamwork makes the dream right if you're on tiktok, you see the puppy cam. I got a puppy cam up there. I can see one of my dogs peeking out on the couch, but uh, anyways, thank you for the correction on that. Again, jason, check your settings before you start. Check your settings before you start. Check your settings before you start. Okay, we're talking tesla robot taxis launch in texas and doordash driver tells customer to choke on it, whatever that means. Uh, go to gig economy showcom for everything Gig economy podcast related. I'd like to thank the Patreon members for supporting the show Samson from Grand Rapids, bud from North Dakota, north Dakota, north Carolina. Omar from Detroit, delivery Castro, michigan, frank from Philly, tom from Chicago, jim from Connecticut, miguel from GR, linda from Tampa and Jerry from Bowling Green, bowling Green, kentucky. If you want to join the Patreon to support the show and so we don't have tech problems and I create a checklist to check my settings go to patreoncom. Slash the gigacon podcast for all your Patreon special things.
Speaker 2:There you go, the special things.
Speaker 1:Larry, we've got a telegram group and we're going to be well. We won't be blowing it up this weekend because we'll be in Nashville.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we will not be blowing it up this weekend, so we're going to leave it in the hands of somebody else. But yeah, that's how we communicate. It's a kind of a communication program. You can text just like you do in normal text, but it also has video and voice messages. So when you're out on the road driving it's sometimes a lot easier to do a voice message than just trying to text. But you can communicate with gig workers all over the country, all the world. We get on there and talk about all things gig related and then we talk about life. We bitch and moan about the bad stuff and we rejoice when something good happens to one of us. And it's just a good way to make some friends that know what you're going through when you're doing gig work, because we're all there all doing the same things absolutely.
Speaker 1:uh, if you are in nashville this weekend, this saturday, we're going to be having a dinner and everyone's invited. If you know me or can get a hold of me or larry, or even the podcast, obviously we have, we're we available Email and we'll shoot you the restaurant and the time it's to be determined. Or get on Telegram, shoot us a message on.
Speaker 2:Telegram.
Speaker 1:Shoot us a message on Telegram. That's actually the best way to get a hold of us is on. Telegram. Everything we talk about. All the links are in the description of the podcast, so check that out. And then thank you for Driven wild uh on and gabe on tiktok. Appreciate you guys so much, um uh for uh hanging out there and seeing what's up, appreciate it. Uh, all right, larry stories from the road. I don't see anything there.
Speaker 2:I assume you don't have anything that's because I was on the road. Yeah, I actually did drive a little bit. When was it? Uh, saturday, saturday or sunday. I did because we got back from florida on friday late late friday night, saturday morning about 2 am, saturday morning actually, okay, um, but nothing crazy. I just did a few few hours of gig work to kind of get back in the groove. But yeah, nothing crazy.
Speaker 1:Nothing crazy. Yeah, not much for me either. I have been doing Market Wagon. I don't know if you have heard of that. I've heard Gabe talk about it. So here's the thing Me and Mo, it was great last week.
Speaker 1:I don't remember what the fuck I said on that show. So if I ask you a question and you're like, yeah, we talked about this or no, we didn't, yeah, yeah, definitely, definitely, stop me. But yeah, market wagon, it's an interesting concept. It's fresh things from farms, you know meat, cheese, veggies, stuff like that. But there's like no app and like they pay you with a paper check oh wow, and which reminds me I have to deposit it. Like they pay you before you leave that day. So they know your miles, they know your tips and everything and stuff like that. And I wouldn't say it's like the best financial gig out there for me, but it's nice to have a guaranteed. I think I did. I think it was 142 and I started at 9 am. So from 9 to like 10 30, I was at the warehouse and then from 10 30 to2 I delivered. So I mean it's not, you know, out of this world, but it's definitely yeah it's not bad.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's not bad. And you know you're delivering food, you're not having to put up with people no customer you know with with passengers in the car, uh. So yeah, sounds like it's not not a bad, not a bad deal and it's a one day a week thing, on tuesdays.
Speaker 1:I can't do it during the school year, so I'm just gonna try it in the summer and it's just nice to have that, knowing that I got my money, I don't have to, uh, uh, worry about grinding it out, I'm just delivering them. Uh can be a lot of miles, so apparently uh and maybe gabe knew this, but you're able, they. Um, when you're first new, your first two routes, they give you a somewhat local one. I thought I was getting lucky, but uh, apparently you know they go to kalamazoo, they go out the lake shore, they go to lansing, apparently, there's a lady that lives in lansing.
Speaker 1:So it's no. She drives from lansing to grand rapids and then drives back with the food and does deliveries over there. So it it it spreads.
Speaker 1:Uh, you know big geographic area so I've been getting lucky, so we'll. We'll see what happens on my next one, but obviously if you drive further you get paid more. I mean it's, you know, it's based on mileage and and things like that. But the only caveat with it is I'm having trouble with remembering to knock on the door, because the instructions for us is because it's stuff with freezer packs in it, like it's, you know, perishable needs to come inside pretty quick and and honestly so does walmart, but I don't know, I just, if it doesn't say knock, I don't.
Speaker 1:And I think maybe, with this not being like an app-based service, uh, I mean, you go online on a website to order it, but I mean, I don't think the customers have an app yeah, so they don't know.
Speaker 2:You know when you know probably they can't see you coming like they can on on some of the other apps. So they don't know. You know it might be. They might just be given a time sometime between you know 10 and 2, they're going to deliver your food.
Speaker 1:So well, supposedly they get a text when we click map, so they send me a link and they give me the address, but anyways. So yeah, I've been having trouble knocking on the door or ringing the doorbell, uh, but other than that, I think it's a good gig for somebody that's just looking to take a break from, yeah, worrying about if you're going to get that ping yeah again just another.
Speaker 2:You know, another tool to have in your tool belt, absolutely and I've done a little walmart here and there.
Speaker 1:Nothing much.
Speaker 2:I've been real busy running errands this week and had a lot of appointments with different things and stuff, so uh, yeah, now next week I will probably have lots of stories about driving drunk people around, but I won't be able to tell them because it's gonna be about you guys I mean you'll have to ask for permission, which? Story. It is change the names to protect the innocent right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, sounds like some people are going to be partying this week in hard. I don't know about people.
Speaker 2:Some people are talking a big game. Yeah, we'll see a big game.
Speaker 1:We'll see. All right, uh, gig economy in the news first up. Uh, you know I talked about it. Well, no, this is a different one. Sorry, my bad, keep, there's so many different self-driving. But uh, waymo has set its sight on new york city. Um, it has applied for a permit to test autonomous vehicles in new york city. Um, let's see, new york's autonomous vehicle demonstration or testing permit requires a human driver to be able to take over a five million dollar insurance policy policy and every test vehicle operator must be adequately trained in the safe operation of the test vehicle. New York law is especially prohibitive of autonomous vehicles. While securing a permit would be notable, waymo is far from being able to launch commercial operations in the city or even test without a human safety operator behind the wheel. So they're still pressing forward. I mean, why wouldn't they? I mean, start the process now? You know them, knowing that it's super strict they're you know they got a lot of their bugs out. I mean obviously not all of them. So hopefully, you know, they're able to do that.
Speaker 2:Um yeah, I mean way Mo in in New York city. I mean, what could go wrong?
Speaker 1:Yeah, what could go wrong?
Speaker 2:I mean, not much, not much, not much well, I think it was.
Speaker 1:It was last show with mo that we did away. Mo, that was froze behind a fire truck and I was like man, if this had been in boston or new york city, that fire truck would have just pushed that fucking car right out of the way and just kept on going oh, yeah, yeah, I have no doubt, because, yeah, that's, that's not good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's not so yeah, I checked again about Nashville. They're still testing, supposedly Okay. Supposedly it's not open to the public yet. They're still doing their mapping and their test driving, whatever they do for the first couple months. But you know, maybe they'll be lucky and they'll flip it on, flip that switch Friday. They're just waiting for us to get down there, I think.
Speaker 1:Well, you think they would have flipped it down when t swift was there. She was just there with her, with her boyfriend I know she played in this little, this little dive, and it was super cool to see that uh yeah, yeah, he has his uh.
Speaker 2:He had his uh annual. He puts on what's it called the tight end academy yeah, or university or something like that, yeah university, tight end university saying uh yeah, she made a surprise appearance there and sang and didn't even have her own guitar and she I love.
Speaker 1:You know people hate her. I love her, I love her and travis. I hope they get married. I think they're. I think they're super cute together.
Speaker 2:Um, yeah, I mean you never know when she could pop up.
Speaker 1:I mean she spends a lot of time in nashville yeah, she does, she does, but she'll probably be gone by the time we get there. So her loss, yeah, exactly. Well, apparently those tickets are only 35 bucks, and then someone leaked out that travis was going to be there, so then they sold out immediately and you, knowing that uh taylor would probably uh work up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, you didn't work with her. You, you saw her from a distance. They wouldn't let you 25 feet from her without her big security guard smashing your face. All right, larry, this TikTok, it's interesting.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so this is a TikTok of a food delivery and apparently, from what it appears, as if he's not real happy with maybe his tip or what happened. But we'll play it and then we'll talk about it.
Speaker 1:Most women are not happy with their tip.
Speaker 3:Are you fucking kidding me?
Speaker 2:Are you fucking kidding me, you guys? What the fuck is wrong with you? Yeah, so yeah, yeah. And for the audio listeners uh, he, the um the door dash driver put a note in there that said you know, drove all this way for nothing. I hope you choke on it. Choke on your food.
Speaker 1:Right. I think he was probably doing earned by time, maybe, and so he because or not, I guess DoorDash doesn't show you the full money up front, but it just seemed like he had closed it out. And then he was like, oh, I drove all this way for nothing. Although if you're doing earned by time, then I guess why are you complaining about the long drive?
Speaker 2:I don't know yeah, and if you're doing it I mean you know, we all know you're not guaranteed anything extra. What you see is is what you can count on yeah, yeah, you're not guaranteed I don't know why you accepted it if, if you weren't happy with it, well, unfortunately that guy.
Speaker 1:That guy probably got what it had said disqualified, deactivated. There we go. I was like what's the d word he got?
Speaker 1:deactivated for sending that because everything's monitored in there. I mean, yeah, I'm sure he did and I would get. I would report that guy too. I mean you can't tell someone to choke on it. Yeah, I mean I get you're pissed. I mean I might ran about it like from the camera. I wonder what cute cued them in on to look at their, their cameras. Maybe they heard him curse or something, because I he said maybe yeah, yeah, it's so funny because he was all big man.
Speaker 2:Then the door opened and he like jumped out of the way real quick. I was like, oh yeah, you're talking a big game here, and then uh, obviously wasn't gonna say anything directly to them.
Speaker 1:Uh, yeah, I think. I think maybe that they heard him curse or something.
Speaker 2:So maybe I went back and just checked the doorbell cam, yeah, yeah exactly.
Speaker 1:Steve says hot tip do not take offers if you don't want it. Hidden tips are a joke and maybe 25 cents added. Yeah, I mean, you shouldn't take it. Hoping for hope in a prayer is that's exactly what it is. You know it's not going to happen very often. If you get, if you know, if you take one and it's it's valuable to you at the time and you get lucky, then absolutely yep enjoy it, but yeah, don't count on it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, josh says these people that complain, uh, about tips, yet take the orders, deserve the no tip orders. Yeah, I mean you kind of get what you get. That's why I always say, like Steve says, don't take it, don't take it. If it's not valuable from what you're being offered, ta-da, don't take it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and you can't dissuade me from thinking that they are watching and they know, if you have a habit of taking non-tip orders, you're going to get more offers to you On TikTok it says I do DoorDash, uber Eats, grubhub, and DoorDash is so bad I've had to add Instacart to my day.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, it's slow right now, depending on your market, it's real slow. The other morning morning, I think, the one day I worked spark, I did a like a couple sparks and maybe one uber eats and then I sat there with three apps on at the parking lot at walmart for 30 minutes and I just went. Oh yeah, I just went home. I can't believe you stayed that long yeah, well, you know, I didn't have anything to do.
Speaker 1:And it was probably my only day to do gig work, and so I was like I'm going to stick it out a little bit longer. I mean, I got offered like $2 shit, and I'm just, you know, I'm not taking that. Not happening. Hey, thank you, pete. Thank you, I appreciate it, you, I appreciate it. That was yesterday, right? Yes, it was, he's 59, y'all. Don't let him tell you he's 40 like like me dark badger, thanks for uh commenting and uh watching the stream.
Speaker 1:Appreciate it all, right. Uh, oh, this one's okay, hopefully. Well, I think the picture will be uh, be small enough that no one will notice it, but uh, so apparently this driver was a ride share driver and he was picking up somebody and the title is wtf, left dick picks as a profile picture, um, so he sends a message and we'll show that. Yeah, you probably won't be able to read it, but it says you know, the pickup note says cock is out. If that, okay, yeah, now. Is that the customer saying want me to cancel? Or is that the driver saying that I don't understand? That would be I don't know.
Speaker 1:No that's the passenger, yeah, the passenger, because it's got the little.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah Next to it.
Speaker 1:Okay. And then the next picture. This guy didn't blur it out, but if you look all the way down under pickup note and if you look closely, it's him like freaking nude dude.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what are you thinking? I can't believe that. That lift, uh, let that through well, that's the worst part.
Speaker 1:Is that lift? I mean, I know it's small, that's what she said, but like I, I don't understand how lift? I just don't get it like they're a technology company. How are they not scanning that stuff? Uh, yeah, I don't get it Like they're a technology company. How are they not scanning that stuff? Yeah, I don't understand. And it's so inappropriate, like I mean honestly, like if it was a woman driver, I'm like that's assault brother. I mean it's assault for a man too. I shouldn't, I shouldn't, you know, but I mean.
Speaker 3:I guess be like that's a nice size.
Speaker 1:And then just move on with my day. You know what I mean, but yeah, I can't believe that somebody would do that. Josh is already starting to troll me.
Speaker 2:I'm telling you yeah, yeah, thank you, bubba Sue, thank you Josh. Yeah, birthday was actually yesterday, so I didn't spend it with with jason. I spent it with my lovely wife. We'll be spending it this weekend together. That's right, we'll be. We will be. Who's getting? We still haven't decided who's getting. Who's getting a big c this weekend, all right, right.
Speaker 1:Steve says tiktok is two. Oh, it's two seconds ahead. Yeah, I know it's delayed, like I said it's bootleg. You were talking to that guy the way I was doing it. I'm not you doing it through restream, I'm just capturing a. I don't know, I couldn't do it through restream, I couldn't figure it out. But anyways, um, yeah, hopefully we don't get um the c, the c meaning c-o-c-k, or the covid.
Speaker 1:Yeah, let's let's be more specific peace, like it's 2025 jason, it's all for anybody. I know I felt bad when I said that like I didn't mean it that way, like it like a guy could I mean?
Speaker 3:you know what I mean?
Speaker 2:yeah, I said we're gonna be casting kobe between each other hey you're, you're gonna be right in the middle of it gabe yeah, exactly, all right.
Speaker 1:Where are we at after? We just squirreled off.
Speaker 2:Okay, we're on. Uh, what is it? Oh, oh, delivery video.
Speaker 1:So this, this, this go ahead like I'm so sorry, I always yeah, that's fine.
Speaker 2:No, no, so this is uh. This is a video about a uh, about a woman getting her uh matcha delivered by by drone, and uh, just her, her kind of talking about the experience, but, you know, very uh performative way yeah, she's annoying.
Speaker 1:Let's just say that I uh uh just let you know that um anytime there's a drone video or article, larry's gonna get it because he freaking loves joan delivery it's cool this is so, bougie.
Speaker 3:I actually just ordered a matcha on drone delivery so I could get the experience. Do you hear the drone? Oh my gosh, what I need a better position.
Speaker 1:That's what she said.
Speaker 3:That's what she said.
Speaker 1:It's so much bigger than I thought.
Speaker 3:That's what she said and it's off. Oh, my matcha spilled. Let's see if it survived the ride. It's so much more secure than I expected. Can you guys see this V? Come look at its little container.
Speaker 2:It didn't even really spill Wow.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, okay. So, other than the fact that you hear me, yeah, okay, it was like really quiet, like I don't know why it wouldn't be quiet, but I was just like you hear me?
Speaker 2:Yeah, Okay, it was like really quiet, like I don't know why it wouldn't be quiet.
Speaker 1:But I was just like you kind of didn't move much and I was like shit am I? Did I catch that? I was reading a few of the comments. Okay, first of all, larry and I both said that's what she said at the same time. Um is what is? Is it matcha? What is?
Speaker 2:it supposed to be frozen or cold green tea.
Speaker 1:Okay, because it looked very melty like it's not supposed to be frozen, okay, um, you know, josh says there goes that drink. I had watched the whole video and that's why I watched till the end, because I was like I'm gonna see that too, and it really didn't even spill no, there was like a little spot you could see yeah and but that looks like it could have been spilled when they put it in there.
Speaker 2:You know, I don't know, but the only reason yeah, it tipped over because it landed right there on the, the divider between the grass and the sidewalk and so it kind of tipped over. But but that doordash, you know that cardboard box they have in it with the with the cup holder built in inside of it's pretty sturdy, yeah it's pretty good.
Speaker 1:I think that's what mcdonald's does too. I mean I I mean I'm not that I spill stuff, but I don't see people talking about spills from mcdonald's at all.
Speaker 2:And the deliveries yeah, no, they, they package them in there pretty good, but yeah, I think it's just a cool technology, you know, uh, to be able to get it. You know deliveries, oh I 100, do it?
Speaker 1:yeah, I mean one more way that I don't have to interact with a human being, even coming into my driveway like blasting his freaking music and vaping out the back like fuck yeah, yeah, all of your food.
Speaker 1:Yeah, give me that drone. I honestly think their deliveries will go up when they are able to do more drone deliveries, because I think that's you and I have talked about it why we don't get a lot of delivery. Not that we're bougie and and I have done it. I mean I did it last week. I was at a bus class and I didn't have a choice and it was fine, it was great, nothing wrong with it.
Speaker 2:But um, you, you know you can get some really shitty drivers that do might smoke in the car, you know yeah, it takes it, it takes it takes, you know, it takes away one of the reasons that that some people don't get food delivery yeah, steve says on tiktok what a joke.
Speaker 1:What's the joke? I think they did a really good job, other than the driver's landing. That was a bad, a bad landing spot and I don't know if that was like automatically doing that or I know we've talked about that a bunch of times, but yeah, I don't think there's anybody.
Speaker 2:I wouldn't think there'd be anybody flying it.
Speaker 1:But you don't think so. You think that was all just I. I want to say it's ai, but that's. That's not really ai, that's like something else, right well, autonomous I mean autonomous. Autonomous is I mean yeah, I guess is ai, I think, autopilot like from a pilot. Yeah, because that is that ai, when the pilot's landing the plane but he's not touching it. Isn't that a good question?
Speaker 2:It is a good question, yeah.
Speaker 1:Because this is not AI. When Tesla's out and driving and there's a driver there that can grab the wheel.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's still definitely AI. Yeah, it's driving itself.
Speaker 1:Just an interesting concept for sure. No, I like that. I, other than her annoying voice.
Speaker 2:I was like yeah, I'm sure that's her, her persona on her channel. Yeah, and I'm sure some people, some people dig it, you know yeah, I don't understand that because you know she doesn't talk like that in a regular life. So yeah, okay, gabe said, put those two dollar no tip ones on drones. Yeah, yeah I mean that's another reason people will like it because you don't have to tip yeah, exactly, you don't have to tip for sure, all right.
Speaker 1:Uh, this one walmart I love me some walmart, walmart, and I think this is fantastic. It's testing dark stores to provide faster delivery to customers. So, essentially a dark stores. There's no customers in it, it's just a big warehouse. And I've seen a I don't know why I didn't.
Speaker 1:Maybe I shared it, I don't know. There's a video of someone my dog's going nuts up there. Hold on, he's going to yell at him. The only thing he can do is fucking scream him down and he'll stop. He's the worst. The other dogs are like dude, what the fuck are you barking at? Like, it's fine, dad's downstairs, he's not running up here. So I had, someone had recorded a video in there when they were picking up, and I don't know if it was a spark worker or just an employee or whatever, but I didn't share it because it didn't feel. It felt like it was like not legit. I thought I don't know, it's the first one I had seen, but apparently it was legit. But, uh, I think it's great. I think they need to do this. I think it's going to speed up, um, you know delivery times. Uh, and if we're shopping for it too. You're not fucking with anybody. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Um, the biggest, the biggest thing that slows me down is is grandpa Joe is in front of the cheese I need and I'm like, oh yeah, I typically you know this is a tip for you and I am it's kind of a common sense tip Just go to the next one. Just skip that one and go to the next one. Don't wait for grandpa to figure out what cheesy needs, just skip it.
Speaker 2:So these stores are going to be well warehouses really. Like I said, they're going to be open for smart drivers to come in.
Speaker 1:I don't know. It doesn't say that in the article. I would assume that would be it. When they showed it, it looked like a regular store, just condensed. I mean, it had nice lights, it had the coolersers, but everything was just, you know, very all crammed together. So right, um, I I mean, why wouldn't you let spark drivers in there? Well, we're yeah, and I I mean, honestly, I think it would be quicker even if they didn't. We just did the curbside.
Speaker 1:Everything's just going to be quicker because you know right now the walmart's, you know, dispensing to customers and spark drivers right, right, this is going to be more streamlined.
Speaker 2:These people are going to be. This is what they do. They they said you know, get this stuff ready to be delivered. You know it's not somebody who's, oh, one minute he's at a cash register, yeah, next minute over here stocking some shells, and then he's, you know, trying to stock stuff, bring out for spark delivery.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, I think it will increase, increase their efficiency apparently opened a few in the mid to 2010s, but closed them after the pandemic, uh, so they're reopening them again. Um, they have opened a dark store in dallas and plans to add one in Bentonville, arkansas, and is considering adding more locations. Well, I think this is a great way for them to try to crush Amazon. That's their goal. All this is to crush, to compete with Amazon, and if you can get shit there quicker, if this is the way to do it, I mean you got to. You know a ton of money. Just start building those damn things. I mean it's got to be way cheaper than building a whole ass Walmart. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1:I mean I don't know what. I'm sure they won't stock everything. It won't be like you can get this random pet food on. You know you won't be able to get that, but like you know Doritos and Pepsi and you know ramen, all these huge staples they'll be able to get there.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, and they. They have all the data. They know what the most popular products are and what to stop, what not to stock.
Speaker 1:You know I love data I would love to look at, like at the white caps. When I work, I was like god, I wonder how many hot dogs we sell a year, or how many beers we pour, and stuff like that. I want to see that data. I freaking love data. You need to be a data analyst man. They make good money. I don't know, though. I'm not that smart with math. I just want to look at and go no shit, yeah, we have the software to do the math nowadays, that's true. You'd be seeing me in my cubicle and you'll hear me go holy shit, you're fucking kidding me. You make. You make that much money from selling a hot dog. Get that All right. Moving on Larry.
Speaker 2:Okay, yeah, I'm sure this story is going to shock everyone, right? Because it's about Uber cheating us out of our money, which you know, breaking news this has never been heard before, right? So this is a second study done that came to the same conclusion. This one was done by New York's Columbia Business School. They did a study and concluded that Uber had implemented their upfront pricing as algorithmic. That's a hard word Dude.
Speaker 1:I'm not laughing at you because I would struggle with that.
Speaker 2:Algorithmic price discrimination. So it says the upfront pricing has basically raised rider fares and cut driver pay on billions of trips, systematically, selectively and opaquely and opaquely, says their research, which is based on an analysis of tens of thousands of trips as well as analysis of over 2 million trip requests. Follows a very similar paper that was produced and published by University of Oxford over in the UK. The British study found that most UK Uber drivers are making substantially less each hour since they introduced the dynamic pricing algorithm in 2023, which coincided with the, that it had generated 6.9 billion of cash during the year, up from losing 303 million of cash in 2022. So that's quite a turnaround. Yeah, it's a miracle.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this is. This is interesting, so it said. The Columbia paper, which is did this, most recent study said focused on 24,532 trips made by a single US Uber driver. What? That's what it says. That's what it says.
Speaker 1:What is happening.
Speaker 2:They concluded that the introduction of this new algorithm upfront pricing allowed Uber to significantly increase its take rate. Uber just significantly increased its take rate, said they used to take average of about 32% and now it's up to around 42% and sometimes well over 50%. An Uber spokesperson said Uber's pricing is designed to be transparent and fair for both riders and drivers. The dynamic pricing helps balance real-time supply and drivers. The you know, the dynamic pricing helps balance real time supply and demand. And then also, you know, in response to being you know, you know ask about this paper. This new study said we do not recognize the figures in this report and every driver is guaranteed to earn at least the national living wage, which is BS. Oh my goodness. Guaranteed to earn at least the national living wage.
Speaker 1:I couldn't believe it said that you can't, you can't use the word guaranteed like a lawyer will fuck that up. He's like you literally said in this that you guaranteed it. Like, yeah, where's the guarantee?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, not good. So, yeah, I mean, we we've talked about this ad nauseum, about how, um, you know what, whether, what other job do people do you know? You think you think in terms of W2 jobs, if you work at a job and you got a? Pay decrease every year people will get it. Well, where does that happen?
Speaker 2:no one happens no one would do it. Yeah, you can people get pissed if they don't get a raise every year? Yeah, and gig work you're getting less every year yeah, I don't know what to do about that.
Speaker 1:I mean, again, that's I. We want to stay independent contractors. But I see why people are pushing to be like, hey, motherfuckers, you know what I mean. If it was back like it was, like, I don't think anyone would bat an eye. But you keep lowering the rate or the the you know, or cheating us out of our money. Then people start getting pissed about that like they do. They're willing to grind for you, but you got to be fair and upfront and transparent about this stuff. Um, dicking us around is is just not the way to go yeah.
Speaker 2:So some, some more interesting things that were in this. This article, in the study too, says you know they're talking about the data and they said uber note. Uber says uh, we know more about driver and rider behavior so we can figure out who's willing to pay more as a passenger and who will accept less as a driver. Oh ouch, yeah. So. So they are watching and you know they're taking all that data and like and they can tell okay, this, this guy's going to take whatever we throw at him and so he's going to get more of the crappy rides. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Do you hate that though? A little bit though, Like I mean what I'm, what I said, not hate that dude, I kind of hate that they're doing it.
Speaker 2:but but it makes it works is better for us Well yeah, that's my point.
Speaker 1:I'm like if that guy's willing to take well, even with food delivery, if they're willing to take a $2 order, what do I care?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, don't send it to me. I mean, I agree with that.
Speaker 1:I think it's just sad that that it, you know, is willing to pay 75. Yeah.
Speaker 1:That's shady Like the other part is like we still made the decision to take the $2 order, so and I guess the customer did too but if you're literally changing the price, oh my God, I would be so livid. Like I mean, what other company? I mean maybe they do it and they just don't have algorithms. But like, what about your internet or any any place else? Like well, like like our, our electricity, it's monitored by the state. Like they can ask for like increases, but it's all legal Eagle, you know throughout. But if, if they all of a sudden just threw like a, you know all the month of July, since it's hot out, we're gonna, you know, yeah, we're gonna double the price.
Speaker 1:We're gonna double the price which they kind of do from two to seven.
Speaker 2:It's a lot higher in our area, and I'm sure it is by you all too.
Speaker 1:It is yeah, yeah, definitely fucking stupid. But I mean, like gabe said, hustle harder and smarter, don't let them dick you around. I mean, just keep an eye on it. Take what's valuable valuable to you. Do not worry about acceptance rate, all that shit and any of the apps.
Speaker 2:Take what's valuable for you yeah, if it's not worth it to you, don't worry about it. Move on, move on. And that's why we talk about having so many tools in the tool belt. You can always move on to something else.
Speaker 1:Or it's so slow you have three apps on and nothing's going off, and then you just, I don't know, go home and take a nap. Yeah, go back out later. Uh, gonna go back to the comment. I don't know what sen pex is. Uh, bubba, sue, I think she's on the east coast, just signed a contract to do walmart delivery, which that scares me. Is that like a con, a company or something? But um, it's a courier delivery.
Speaker 1:Same day courier delivery that's not good for us. No for us. Gig workers if they're, if they're contracting and I know in some areas they probably have to do that well, even more. Uh, mo was on last week and she says a ton of walmart gets sent to uber, really to uber eats, for delivery and it's bad. It'll be like three deliveries for like eight bucks. You know what I mean. So three deliveries, eight bucks. Now walmart every once in a while and maybe they are going to uber here and I'm just not seeing it. But I typically have uber eats and walmart on and I don't ever see you'll never see it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, sent to uber eat. So last mile delivery. Yeah, maybe hopefully they're going for the rural ones and we'll stay in the city. They can. They can take those vans out and fucking timbuktu yeah well, it says.
Speaker 2:It says sinpex operates in, uh, 669 cities.
Speaker 1:Okay, that's quite a bit yeah, so waymo in the news. Okay, this video isn't specifically Waymo, but it's just a terrifying experience and God help us If the robo taxi does this. So we'll watch this and pray for everyone, pray for the children he's not slowing down at all.
Speaker 3:It's not slowing down at all, it's visualizing it as a truck and here we have a kid darting out.
Speaker 2:So you have children who dart out from behind park cars boom yeah, what I would like to see, though, I mean, is is have a human driver there, see how many of them hit it as well, because I think a lot of those well larry, the big pictures you're missing.
Speaker 1:The bus reds are on yeah oh, they ran the reds, so this completely missed that.
Speaker 2:See you, completely missed that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the software didn't pick up the reds it. It thought it was a truck and just blew right past.
Speaker 1:It got it completely missed that yeah, no, you're right, they pulled that kid out like, yeah, a half a second before that car was there and a couple of times, you see, he does, he, the, he, the car does apply the brake. You see the brake lights gone even before the kid gets out. So, yeah, I don't know if he, if he, if he, if it sensed it, uh, but you're right that they did pull that kid out quick, yeah, but yeah, I completely, completely did not, did not well, I mean, obviously I'm focused on it because I drive a school bus driver yeah
Speaker 1:yeah, but yeah, it didn't even stop for the reds and that's the bigger problem not not running over the kid, but I don't know if I don't know if that was the the the test point, was it stopping for the kid or the bus? Because they didn't really mention anything about the school bus lights. And again, I don't even know how old this is. I just saw it on the internet somewhere. It could be 10 years old and it's not a problem anymore.
Speaker 2:Well, it was posted 12 days ago.
Speaker 1:Well, again, it doesn't mean it may have got leaked out. Yeah, I'm more worried about the, the lights. I mean we I get people running my reds all the time, but it's like this is supposed to be, ai, and it's supposed to be good and not make mistakes and yeah well, that's definitely a big mistake.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, not good. There's like random people videoing too.
Speaker 1:I don't know. The one lady was like leaning out. I'm like, are you just like a neighbor and just want to see it?
Speaker 2:It just seems like yeah.
Speaker 1:I know, it just seems like she was recording from her phone, so but yeah, yeah, be careful out there. Y'all stop for those reds, yeah, stop for those reds $500 ticket in Michigan.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, not good Yep $500.
Speaker 1:Dang, all right. Moving on Octopus tablet Whoa, so do they? Do they shut down their Facebook? Remember we talked about that Octopus tablet was shutting down their Facebook group. But anyways, octopus tablet, you can get this for your car If you're a ride share driver left, an Uber or really any ride share company or your private. You can get this for your car if you're a ride share driver Lyft and Uber or really any ride share company or if you're a private driver. Trivia, fun games, all that stuff. You can win gift cards as a rider if you score the most points. But you won't. I don't know if, larry, I didn't have anyone win anything.
Speaker 2:I don't know if Larry did either. I had to mind the top three.
Speaker 1:That was the best Top three. Larry did either, but I had to mind the top three. That was the best top three Interesting yeah, one second Franklin, stupid ass dog. But no, I talk about the Facebook page. Apparently, I think there, I don't think it's Larry and I thought it might be a bad thing, but apparently they're going to do all that stuff in app. I don't know. But, um, they had shut down their facebook page, which was kind of toxic, let's be honest. They didn't really monitor. It was more of just a like yeah, vending page for drivers.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was just like any other page. I mean, if you're gonna have a page like that for your business, you gotta, you gotta like monitor it, yeah you gotta have a moderator, because, yeah, I, I looked at it a lot when I first got the Octopus tablet, but then you're like, well, this is not anything that I need to read. It's not anything to do with Octopus tablet, it's just more ride share drivers, you know, bitching about whatever.
Speaker 1:Yeah, every once in a while it would have a question about the tablet, but anyways, it's great. I know we're bitching about the Facebook group Download, or the link is in our description. Definitely do it. It's free, everything's free, super great company to work for and fucking do it All right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I expect y'all to wear my tablet out next weekend and making me some money. That's true.
Speaker 1:You better run that shit. I got it, man. You know what you should do. We should do some content where you do an Uber ride and I'll be sitting in the front seat and just see how people react. Oh no, you'll probably get deactivated. We better not do that. That'd be bad.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean, you know, yeah, if you don't say anything, it's one thing and you just have somebody in the front seat, Like when I had Nick riding with me doing the documentary. Like we explain, we ask every time yup, are you, are you okay? And and so many times they're like so, so why, are you doing a documentary? On him right right he would go through and explain it and everything.
Speaker 1:Because they thought you were super famous. Uh, yeah, I mean, you kind of are local local right all.
Speaker 2:Oh, my dog is driving me nuts. I really don't hear him, Harley.
Speaker 1:Oh, you can't hear him.
Speaker 2:I can't really hear him.
Speaker 1:I can always hear him a little bit when I edit. I'm old, I can't hear him. That's true, franklin, come here. My other dogs are just chilling down here. They're just like hey Dad, what's up? I love hanging out with you, frank the dick.
Speaker 2:All right, there's going to be one, yeah that's right.
Speaker 1:Elon Musk announces launch of new business venture and, as of us recording right now, they are out in Austin. They went out Sunday, june 22. And guess what? It's only going to cost $4.20, which is hilarious, by the way.
Speaker 2:Yes, I saw that. I saw that. And how long is he going to subsidize?
Speaker 1:that I don't know. I mean it's got to be just for a little bit, I mean that's not going to be sustainable.
Speaker 2:But I was looking at a picture of those robo taxis, because when we first saw them we're like's just a two seater, what the heck. But the doors, it's a four seater. The doors are really long, it's just one door that opens up for both. Oh, in the back seat, if you look, I think it was, maybe even was it that article well, this article?
Speaker 1:no, it's showing a waymo. It doesn't even show their. You do the article about okay yeah, the the the new thing and it. It's not even showing it, but I'm not sure we can find it.
Speaker 2:I was yeah, I was looking at some picture of, uh, I think it's yeah, it's actually our. My last article that I'm doing has that picture. Oh okay, but it's a yes, it's a really long like door that opens up like for both we really studied that thing and we didn't see that when we were well, we never. They never had the doors open because, because it kind of they open up, they're open. Weird, you know, they don't open out just like a normal day.
Speaker 2:They they open up at an angle yeah like at a 90, you know kind of 90 degree angle there to the car.
Speaker 2:So, uh, it's, it's very different, but it's, yes, definitely for because it did and we couldn't figure it out, right? That makes no sense, right, but the picture we saw when they did the rollout, you never really got a good look at them and you can never tell, and never saw one with the doors open well, one thing that that I think the tesla has over the waymo is tesla doesn't have all these ugly sensors outside of it, like it's already built into the car, so that's a huge.
Speaker 1:I mean not that you really care what it looks like, honestly, but um, yeah, probably be less tampered with like waymos are. I mean, they stick out like a sore thumb, you know, oh yeah, yeah, there's no doubt it's a waymo, right, and it even says it. There's a spider coming down from the ceiling right in front of my monitor that's hilarious, hey, buddy.
Speaker 1:Um, it even says waymo on this car. So I'm like the, the robo taxis are probably not gonna. You know, he always likes a clean look, although he built the, the fucking cyber truck, so I don't know. I think he was high that night or something.
Speaker 2:Yeah and our all, the uh all, the robo taxi is gonna be, gonna be that gold color that we always see yeah, that's true too, that that'll be, that they'll stand out. That'll be a problem if they, if they are, they'll stand out like a sore thumb.
Speaker 1:But uh, this article also talks about, obviously, amazon, they, I guess they bought uh that zooks for 1.2 billion uh, didn't know, it was that much uh and then has since built a plant in silicon valley that expected expected to produce 10,000 robo-taxis per year. Man, this is coming, larry. I bet if we go back a year ago we talked about it and we're just like, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, what I mean yeah.
Speaker 2:It's one of those things. We talked about it for so long and the sky was falling, yeah, when we first started doing it, everybody's like, yeah, I enjoyed a year or two and it just didn't happen. Didn't just kept putting back and push back, and push back. But yeah, you can really tell the the it's. I mean the snowball is picking up steam.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's a big snowball at this point.
Speaker 1:It is yeah and it's coming and which, again, I mean I don't, I don't really do much ride share anyways, and I do think I'm not going back on my statement that I do think it'll be a long time before it's in my city. I mean I think it'll. I don't, I mean until it gets like, until they get through the big hurdles like new york and all the big regulation places, and once they're smoothly going through there, then it probably will go like wildfire to like smaller markets, yeah, um, but I think it's still going to be a while for us.
Speaker 2:So yeah, I'm still trying to just figure out how they're gonna make money when these things cost so much. How long is I mean? I mean, by the time you recoup their money, the car is going to be worn out well, it's probably the same way they did with uber when it came out. You just you know you run through the cash for well, yeah, and then you slowly raise the rates of what they are.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean. I mean we talked about last week when mo was on. You know the. The waymo is more expensive than uber and lyft right now. Actually, right, yeah, it's like ten dollars more per ride. So, uh, and so I. Maybe they'll start low and then go high, although maybe I I don't know what waymo started out. I mean, they've done it so long. Maybe they're at that point where they're already starting to raise the prices, but maybe, yeah, josh, on a late comment, um, I've been on sendpex waitlist for two, two and a half years. It's crazy.
Speaker 1:I hear people talking about waitlist all the time. I was talking to somebody about Walmart spark she actually used to work as a loader, her and I talked. I was like you need to get out. She seemed really nice. I'm like you need to get out of here, you need to. You know, drive bus. Like I can get you in driving, but like cause they make 14 an hour, like 14 an hour and they don't get full time, and they don't get full-time and they don't get benefits. And I was like you got to get out of here, like this isn't. So then she ended up. She got hired at the white cap. So we worked together on occasion and she said she went to apply for spark and she's waitlist and she's applied for a lot of the apps waitlist, waitlist, waitlist.
Speaker 1:I'm like yeah, I mean especially right now with the summer maybe, yeah not a good time maybe you'll luck out once school starts back up again. But yeah, yeah, all right, larry uber offering ads. When I hear that, I just get so excited.
Speaker 2:I just can't hide it yeah, so this article talks about uber. Uh, it's launching a new ad format that will let different companies that that partner with them offer uh, offer people cash off their next rise or savings and things like that. So they said our audiences are always looking for an opportunity to drive savings, get affordable things and also get messages that are personalized and relevant. So this was over. This is an advertising festival over in France. So, yeah, and Molson Coors, which I guess Miss Coors Beer is one of the advertisers for ride offers. Brands like Coors Light will show up in the ads in the Uber app. As you're looking at your phone, looking to see if your driver where he's at, and things like that. Uber pops up ads. So these ads are going to pop up offering users an Uber discount.
Speaker 1:So they're going to pop up offering users, you know, an uber discount. Uh, so they're gonna pop up. So, if you're, you're taking an uber, why and you talked about the beer but why would it offer, like, if you buy the beer, you get like? Maybe this will explain it. Maybe I talked too early yeah, no, I did it because you say they're offering an uber discount, but if it's in the app, why would they advertise the beer or whatever and then offer an uber discount?
Speaker 2:I guess yeah, it doesn't. It's not.
Speaker 1:It doesn't explain it very well in this article, okay, um but let's see, I didn't mean to put you on the spot there no, no, you're, you're fine.
Speaker 2:um, so, yeah it's. They've just been working with a lot of different companies, uh, trying to figure out how they can best use their you know, make money off their data and uh, so a lot of advertisers have been using Uber and Uber Eats Atari ads on uh for, you know, for lots of different products. For example, an Uber user might be viewing, you know, looking at a Zubra app check to see where their driver's at, and then he might flip over to, you know, scroll on tiktok once they're inside and uh, uber will know and they can serve an ad specific to that user oh, okay, so it's when they go outside the app that's what it sounds like.
Speaker 2:Um, like again, again it's. It's it kind of talks both ways. Um, where it will happen in the app, because the first one said, yeah, brands like Career's Light will show up with ads in the Uber app, so that's definitely inside the app. But then they talk about this where they might be able to show them an app once they get in the car and they switch to another app like TikTok or something like that.
Speaker 1:So yeah, I mean, how do you? Feel about ads like that. I don't mind targeted ads. If I'm looking for something like this is what I don't like. If I'm Googling like something I want to buy, I'm okay getting a targeted ad. It's just when it's like that seems a little shitty because, like I'm already using Uber, why are you showing me another fucking uber ad in my tiktok app? You know what I mean. Like, give me, give me something that I, that I really care about, not fucking uber. I already use your product.
Speaker 1:But yeah, it's just kind of I don't know I don't know how you feel about ads, but yeah, I mean it's.
Speaker 2:You know it's what I was saying. They're just fine. You know it's another income stream for them. Uber has its own ad business that launched back in 2022. It reached a $1.5 billion revenue run rate by the end of 2025, which is up 60%. It serves ads on the Uber app, on in-car screens and in emails to users, and on car tops. Some people have car top ads on there. So, yeah, it's just another way they're looking to definitely use the data and the customer base that they have to make another income screen. Uber knows a lot about the type of people who like Mexican food or who spend time in a particular part of town, or people who go to the airport four times a month know they can. They can then base ads. Uh, um, knowing that you know that's probably somebody who's you know might be a high income person and they might market them specific things.
Speaker 1:so especially the mexican restaurants. And if you order on uber eats, uber has that data. They're like hey, dude, like yeah, let me sell you an ad package because yeah, or we know, you know, we know you.
Speaker 2:You order this every every week here, listening.
Speaker 1:We'll give you, you know, we'll give you two dollars off on, you know, on that burrito that you order I love you know, speaking of the two dollars off, I love the apps, uh that you know it's cheaper online or to do it through the app, like I started, uh, using wendy's app and they usually get like two dollar off coupon and food apps, restaurant apps always have bargains and deal yeah and I found.
Speaker 1:The other day I ended up ordering the the wendy's. It's my own fault, I was doing, I was doing it when I was driving but I ended up, uh, ordering at a different, which I have to reach out to them because they still charge my card even even though I canceled the order. Maybe I'll see a refund back in there, but I wish they wouldn't charge it until you actually get to the restaurant.
Speaker 1:But maybe they won't make it, I don't know, but anyways, so you can even use this app in the drive-thru, because I go to the drive-thru, I go mobile order for JT.
Speaker 2:They're like are you sure you ordered at this store?
Speaker 1:I'm like yeah, I'm pretty sure she goes are you, sure, and you know she's trying to be nice, but in her mind she's like you, dumb ass. Yeah, I figure out.
Speaker 2:And then on the speaker, I'm like, I'm like, ah, fuck oh man, I know I've done that with chick-fil-a before get there, and you're, you pull up and you're like, uh, no, we don't have your food right. And then you and you're like, no, we don't have your food Right. And then you look and you're like oh, man.
Speaker 1:But what was cool was is I could still use the app and they scanned it at the register because of course I placed my order. I'm already there. You know what I mean. And they still knocked $2 off, so man.
Speaker 1:Oh, nice yeah you got to be using those apps out there, definitely, so definitely. All right, moving on, and then I think that'll be it. And then, of course that we have a patron tonight at 18 pm, we'll finish up the articles we didn't get to, and then who knows what will happen? Larry and I sometimes get on these rants.
Speaker 2:Chaos, chaos ensues.
Speaker 3:So this is an.
Speaker 1:Instacart video and I don't know if it's real or fake One of the guys I follow on TikTok. He was kind of doing a side-by-side, so he's on the top and it's a driver that's very frustrated about the notes in the app.
Speaker 3:Ma'am, it's Instacart. I'm leaving your shit right here, but before I leave I want to tell you you put too much shit in your memo. Get the eggs from the bag, drive easy over the bumpall. My eggs don't crack, it's too much. I'm already in the goddamn shopping store for over an hour. Then you want me to reach to the back to see the date. That's the long. I'm not doing all that. No more, ma'am, you're gonna make me quit my job. Don't do that. You stay blessed. Your instacart is here, ursuline. Get your ass up, my boy. The instacart give you my id. The instacart give you my id. Sorry, ma'am, please don't report me. I'm just trying to keep my job. Stay blessed. Stay blessed, ursuline wait a minute.
Speaker 1:I so I didn't. I didn't watch it to the end, I watched like the first 20 seconds and I was like, oh, this would be a good video. So was it fake or do you think I think it was? No, I don't think. So you think it was real, like she? I think it was real she recognized her at the end, or I.
Speaker 2:I don't know if she recognized her or they were just watching through the. You know the. They're talking through the doorbell camera and they say her name on there, that's true. I think she probably just said you know, it shows you, I guess, who's shopping for you. I think she just said her name, oh, and the lady was like oh, no, busted. And she's like please don't report me, you know Okay.
Speaker 1:And it looked like the person took it very, very well and was getting a kick out of it. Well, I mean, she looked yeah, the, the lady, the other lady kind of chuckled, so I thought it might have been a fake video. I don't know. Well, I'm glad you took that. I you always worry that they're going to be fake. It doesn't matter, it's still funny it's still true?
Speaker 2:yeah, it is, and I mean it looked. If they, if it was fake, they did a good job.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm saying it is true, stop putting so many fucking notes in there like honestly, if yeah, I don't know if it was in our telegram group, but somebody posted a like a long uber eats, like oh yeah if I saw that, I'd immediately cancel like I saw that one yeah, I'm out, yeah, yeah, I would too.
Speaker 2:I would. No way I'm taking that because they're like man. There's no way I'm going to satisfy this person.
Speaker 1:Well, especially in that one picture that whoever posted it, thank you. There was like seven exclamation points and I'm just like yo, bro, this is not happening tonight. This is not happening Not today, not today. Mrfers, all right, join us on the Patreon at 8, 10 pm, that's in eight minutes. Can you do math? I can, and if you join right now, you can join us live and chat with us and stuff like that, and also support show. I just realized that this audio won't come out till oh shit, that means I got to edit that before I leave too. God dang it. I got a busy couple days before I leave um.
Speaker 2:This audio won't come out till monday, so that if you hearing this, we already had nashville and we're already back home. So well, we may not, we're maybe in jail.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, well, we'll be flying home that day.
Speaker 2:I'm leaving monday, so but yeah, mostly all right go ahead, larry. Sorry, yeah, I was gonna say on the telegram we are on the patreon, we will talk about that. Uh, that, that picture, that faith posted the all the instructions okay yeah, that'll be good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's. It's a good one, pretty wild there so as always, don't put up with anyone's bullshit and we'll see you on the road.
Speaker 2:All right, hopefully we'll see you in nashville hopefully not in jail, peace out.
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